Re: [lisp] Gen-ART IETF Last Call review of draft-ietf-lisp-ddt-08

worley@ariadne.com (Dale R. Worley) Tue, 17 January 2017 21:32 UTC

Return-Path: <worley@alum.mit.edu>
X-Original-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: lisp@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC12F1295BF for <lisp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:32:56 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.934
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.934 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ieYVLUn_02TC for <lisp@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:32:56 -0800 (PST)
Received: from resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net [IPv6:2001:558:fe21:29:69:252:207:39]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF7CD1295BC for <lisp@ietf.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 13:32:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from resomta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.103]) by resqmta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id TbN7cwnIfj8tqTbN7cQF6Z; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:32:53 +0000
Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com ([IPv6:2601:192:4603:9471:222:fbff:fe91:d396]) by resomta-ch2-07v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id TbN5cYT3Jaq1HTbN6caoQM; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:32:52 +0000
Received: from hobgoblin.ariadne.com (hobgoblin.ariadne.com [127.0.0.1]) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id v0HLWpKg009600; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:32:51 -0500
Received: (from worley@localhost) by hobgoblin.ariadne.com (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id v0HLWonQ009597; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:32:50 -0500
X-Authentication-Warning: hobgoblin.ariadne.com: worley set sender to worley@alum.mit.edu using -f
From: worley@ariadne.com
To: Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <DD48DA10-0E5C-47FA-BB0D-83900ACC8801@gmail.com> (farinacci@gmail.com)
Sender: worley@ariadne.com
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:32:50 -0500
Message-ID: <87inpdpe2l.fsf@hobgoblin.ariadne.com>
X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfJsb4xnKUVjv+wiZsAMve8wJ3RrlaZshaYG9PPDmK4MwJ/bhQji4inVBhqOYDbCNowaaIoTgSl8zasVr5qcVQpgnhm+asBGjGVcBizgEexenM1cfnh1o RwS2mruCL7ohXI/MhCUG31qAqhJJaQ4SrJgRYUSLcY1n3mfP1GNR1diwqU0e/xfsEoGXVN0ovk1cWemTPxjFj+6FV5pX48TGRnA=
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lisp/sli9PeTfundVK2CHZQ7i8Qw_hlo>
Cc: lisp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [lisp] Gen-ART IETF Last Call review of draft-ietf-lisp-ddt-08
X-BeenThere: lisp@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: List for the discussion of the Locator/ID Separation Protocol <lisp.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/lisp>, <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/lisp/>
List-Post: <mailto:lisp@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lisp>, <mailto:lisp-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:32:57 -0000

I reviewed draft-ietf-lisp-ddt-08, and my memory is that the only
significant technical question was regarding the "D" bit in Map-Request
messages.

Thinking back on it, I believe that the difficulty I was having was with
the explanation of the D bit, not its functionality.  In particular, a
DDT server can share a node and a listening port with a Map-Server.
Both of these servers process Map-Request messages, albeit with
different semantics.  Hence the D bit in Map-Request messages is needed
to differentiate which server is to process a given Map-Request message.

My suggestion is that the document define the D bit in this way.  Once
that is done, it's obvious for a particular client sending a particular
message whether the D bit should be set.  Compare with the current
description, which speaks of the D bit as if it is a classification of
the sender of the Map-Request, which leads to conceptual problems
because it requires the document to define the classification and ensure
that all possible clients are properly classified.

(Ideally, I would advocate that a DDT Map-Request should have a
different type code than a Map-Server Map-Request.  But I'm sure that it
is too late to put that fix into existing deployments.)

Dale