Re: [lp-wan] Draft agenda for the BoF in Berlin

[Alexander Pelov <[e-mail]>]

Dear Sri, 

yes, sure, I agree entirely with you. 

Doing a separate track on the proposed solutions (as a bar BoF or other format) is great - we’ll have the time to get into more details. 

One thing I would really like to avoid is to leave all issues for the BoF. We need to prepare the points beforehand, so that we have a structured dialogue. This is the reason I think having technology-based drafts before the end of this month would be a great starting point.  

This is the updated version of the presentation schedule, without the solutions. 

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Technology (40 mins, < 10 min per presentation)

- General introduction, 6LPWA architecture - Alexander Pelov, P. Thubert
- Technology slot 1: 3GPP LPWA (NB-IoT / EC-GSM-IoT / Cat-M1) - Antti
Ratilainen
- Technology slot 2: IEEE LPWA (Wi-SUN, IEEE 802.15.4g) - Bob Heile,
Jonathan Munoz
- Technology slot 3: LoRa - Alper Yegin
- Technology slot 4: SIGFOX - Juan Carlos Zuniga

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WG scope, gaps, initial work (20 mins, < 10 min per presentation)

Gap analysis, IPv6 applicability for LPWA (20 min)
- LPWA Gap analysis - Ana Minaburo (
draft-minaburo-lp-wan-gap-analysis-01 )
- Analysis of IPv6 over LPWA: design space and challenges - Carles Gomez
( draft-gomez-lpwan-ipv6-analysis-00 )

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Work items, charter  (Discussion, Charter text bashing, < 1H)

Charter and work Items Discussions, led by chairs (< 1H)
- Interaction model with LPWA technologies (just cross participations? ISGs?)
- Review proposed work items, one by one


Best,
Alexander

> Le 6 juin 2016 à 16:02, Sri Gundavelli (sgundave) <[e-mail]> a écrit :
> 
> 
> I have similar views on the agenda. Discussion/presentations should be
> more about the problem statement and not steer the charter on specific
> solution approaches. Before we discuss the solution approaches, lets get
> consensus on each of the work item, its relevance to each SDO and then
> allow the WG members to come back with specific proposals for discussion.
> Will the signaling protocol be CoAP or some thing else, is unknown and
> that discussion needs to happen. In that sense the discussion on the
> solution drafts for this meeting is premature. I¹d rather use that time to
> discuss the work items and relative prioritization.
> 
> Sri
> 
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> 
> On 6/3/16, 7:19 AM, "lp-wan on behalf of Alexander Pelov"
> <[e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]> wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> Please find below a draft agenda for the 6LPWA BoF for Berlin. It is not
>> settled yet, but I think we are looking at a good start for discussions.
>> 
>> * Note: I have arbitrarily assigned names for the presenters, coming from
>> the mailing list activity. People that are mentioned - please confirm
>> your availability and your willingness to work + present during the BoF.
>> * Note 2: I’d expect all presentations mentioned in this program to be
>> accompanied by a draft document which gives background to the
>> presentation. We’ll have extremely tight schedule, so being able to look
>> this in advance will be of great importance. I’d say that we should have
>> the drafts by the end of June.
>> 
>> The allocated slot is expected to be 2h, divided into two parts:
>> - 1h - Presentations - technologies, gaps, current drafts,
>> - 40mn -> 1h - Proposed charter and work items discussion / edition
>> - QSP solution drafts
>> 
>> The following subjects could be presented, in three groups - technology,
>> gap analysis, solutions:
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> Technology (40 mins, < 10 min per presentation)
>> 
>> - General introduction, 6LPWA architecture - Alexander Pelov, P. Thubert
>> - Technology slot 1: 3GPP LPWA (NB-IoT / EC-GSM-IoT / Cat-M1) - Antti
>> Ratilainen
>> - Technology slot 2: IEEE LPWA (Wi-SUN, IEEE 802.15.4g) - Bob Heile,
>> Jonathan Munoz
>> - Technology slot 3: LoRa - Alper Yegin
>> - Technology slot 4: SIGFOX - Juan Carlos Zuniga
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - WG scope,
>> gaps, initial work (20 mins, < 10 min per presentation)
>> 
>> Gap analysis, IPv6 applicability for LPWA (20 min)
>> - LPWA Gap analysis - Ana Minaburo (
>> draft-minaburo-lp-wan-gap-analysis-01 )
>> - Analysis of IPv6 over LPWA: design space and challenges - Carles Gomez
>> ( draft-gomez-lpwan-ipv6-analysis-00 )
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Work
>> items, charter  (Discussion, Charter text bashing, < 1H)
>> 
>> Charter and work Items Discussions, led by chairs (< 1H)
>> - Interaction model with LPWA technologies (just cross participations?
>> ISGs?)
>> - Review proposed work items, one by one
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Work in
>> progress  (QSP, < 5mn per presentation)
>> 
>> Solution drafts (QSP)
>> - IPv6 over LPWA with compression context - Laurent Toutain (
>> draft-toutain-lp-wan-compression-context-00 )
>> - Optimized 6LoWPAN Fragmentation Header for LPWA - Carles Gomez (
>> draft-gomez-lpwan-fragmentation-header-01 )
>> - AAA in LPWA : LoRaWAN Authentication in RADIUS and Diameter - Dan
>> Garcia ( draft-garcia-radext-radius-lorawan-00 and
>> draft-garcia-dime-diameter-lorawan-00 )
>> - Constrained Signaling over LPWA - Laurent Toutain (
>> draft-pelov-core-cosol-01 )
>> 
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> 
>> As you can see, the schedule is extremely tight. We do need to get a
>> sense of the technologies. We do need to explore the gaps, areas where
>> IETF work can be beneficial. On that foundation, we want to validate the
>> proposed charter, to be confirmed on the ML, and that's probably the
>> topic on which most of the discussion at the meeting should focus. If we
>> can, we would also like to show that we already have meaningful solution
>> work, be it only to demonstrate that we are not boiling the Ocean here.
>> But then, that will be if time permits.
>> 
>> I would suggest that all presenters work with the chairs of the BoF
>> (Pascal and I acting, to be confirmed by Suresh) so that we can
>> streamline the process. In particular, we could agree on a skeleton 4-5
>> slides that would be instantiated for each technologies for their 10mn
>> slot.
>> 
>> What do you all think?
>> 
>> Best,
>> Alexander
>> 
>> TLDR:
>> Proposed baseline technology presenters: OK/Not OK/Will see?
>> Baseline technology drafts: Deadline June 31st
>> Presentation list: Add/Remove?
>> 
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