Re: [Lsr] Reg Question regarding ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce

Peter Psenak <ppsenak@cisco.com> Fri, 22 March 2024 13:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Lsr] Reg Question regarding ietf-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce
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Kotesh,

On 19/03/2024 12:44, Kotesh Chundu wrote:
> Hi,
>
>   I have one query regarding the following content from the IGP UPA draft.
>
> <snip>
> As UPA advertisements in IS-IS are advertised in existing Link State
>     PDUs (LSPs) and the unit of flooding in IS-IS is an LSP,*it is recommended that, when possible, UPAs are advertised in LSPs 
> dedicated to this type of advertisement. This will minimize the number 
> of LSPs which need to be updated when UPAs are advertised and withdrawn.*
> </snip>
> What is meant by LSPs dedicated to this type of advertisement in the 
> above highlighted text? My understanding is that we have only one ISIS 
> LSP for all the content. If a given LSP can not fit into one packet, 
> then it is put into multiple fragments.

a node can generate up to 255 LSPs in the L1 area, or in  L2 backbone. 
Sometimes these are referred to as fragments, but these are independent 
LSPs.


>
> Does it refer to some enhancement where UPA prefixes are separately 
> put into separate ISIS fragments dedicated for UPA prefixes? Or any 
> other enhancement where we define a separate LSP type for UPA? Can 
> somebody clarify this?

the recommendation is that UPAs may be sent in a separate LSP, because 
they are short lived. This avoids the receiving nodes to go over the 
unchanged content of the LSP, if UPAs are mixed with other information. 
Note that it is an optional behavior and is not needed for the UPA 
functionality.


thanks,
Peter

>
> Does any vendor support this kind of enhancement for UPA or any other 
> ISIS feature?
>
> Regards,
> Kotesh
>
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