Comment on draft-ietf-ltans-xmlers-03.txt

"Andreas Menke" <andreas.menke@openlimit.com> Tue, 23 June 2009 07:25 UTC

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From: Andreas Menke <andreas.menke@openlimit.com>
To: ietf-ltans@vpnc.org
Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-ltans-xmlers-03.txt
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:13:40 +0200
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Hello list.

Point 4.2.1. Time Stamp Renewal in 'draft-ietf-ltans-xmlers-03.txt' is
irritating me: Is it right that 'the complete content of the last ATS MUST
be time-stamped...'?

RFC4998 point 5.2 says 'the content of the timeStamp field
   of the old Archive Timestamp has to be hashed and timestamped by a
   new Archive Timestamp [...] generally one can collect a number of
   old Archive Timestamps and build the new hash tree with the hash
   values of the content of their timeStamp fields.'

Is it right that there should be no conversion between XML and RFC4998
coding ever since working with different hash values?

Is it right that a collection of 'a number of old Archive Timestamps and
build the new hash tree' is not supported by XML coding in contrast to
RFC4998?

In 2.1 Structure there seems to be shown a structure which does not
correspond to the schema in 6. Is it right to assume that the schema in 6.
is what is meant?


Regards


Andreas Menke

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Subject: Comment on draft-ietf-ltans-xmlers-03.txt
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Hello list.

Point 4.2.1. Time Stamp Renewal in 'draft-ietf-ltans-xmlers-03.txt' is
irritating me: Is it right that 'the complete content of the last ATS MUST
be time-stamped...'?

RFC4998 point 5.2 says 'the content of the timeStamp field
   of the old Archive Timestamp has to be hashed and timestamped by a
   new Archive Timestamp [...] generally one can collect a number of
   old Archive Timestamps and build the new hash tree with the hash
   values of the content of their timeStamp fields.'

Is it right that there should be no conversion between XML and RFC4998
coding ever since working with different hash values?

Is it right that a collection of 'a number of old Archive Timestamps and
build the new hash tree' is not supported by XML coding in contrast to
RFC4998?

In 2.1 Structure there seems to be shown a structure which does not
correspond to the schema in 6. Is it right to assume that the schema in 6.
is what is meant?


Regards


Andreas Menke

-----------------------------
Diplom-Informatiker (Uni.)
Andreas Menke
Team Leader, Development

OPENLiMiT SignCubes GmbH
Saarbrücker Str. 38 A
D-10405 Berlin

Fon: +49 30 868 766 – 10
Fax: +49 30 868 766 – 11
andreas.menke@openlimit.com
www.openlimit.com

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Heinrich Dattler, Armin Lunkeit
Nadine Model (Prokuristin)
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Finanzamt für Körperschaften II
St.-Nr. 37/155/20819
USt-ID: DE 224136339
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	Title           : Data Structure for the Security Suitability of Cryptographic Algorithms (DSSC)
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	Filename        : draft-ietf-ltans-dssc-09.txt
	Pages           : 42
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Since cryptographic algorithms can become weak over the years, it is
necessary to evaluate their security suitability.  When signing or
verifying data, or when encrypting or decrypting data, these
evaluations must be considered.  This document specifies a data
structure that enables an automated analysis of the security
suitability of a given cryptographic algorithm at a given point of
time which may be in the past, at the present time or in the
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