[Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? (was: John Cowan throws in...)
"Doug Ewell" <dewell@roadrunner.com> Sat, 01 December 2007 04:39 UTC
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Subject: [Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? (was: John Cowan throws in...)
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John Cowan <cowan at ccil dot org> wrote: >> Wouldn't it be easier, more consistent, cleaner, and cherry-free... > > I don't think it's necessarily appropriate to fall back in all cases > of macrolanguages (as Peter's list shows), and it may well be > appropriate to fall back in some cases that aren't macrolanguages at > all (Breton -> French is the example we've talked about a lot). Using > a different name lets us decouple from 639-3's particular choices. We can keep the Macrolanguage name and follow the ISO 639-3 mappings exactly, or we can give this field a new name (such as John's suggestion, "Fallback") and cherry-pick the ones like Chinese and Arabic where one variety dominates. I think it would be too confusing to have both, as I said before about having both a Macrolanguage field and extlangs. However, I strongly oppose any efforts to add our own, non-ISO 639 mappings to the Registry, even seemingly obvious ones like Breton -> French. That way lies complete madness. We will never come anywhere close to getting all of them, and we will be reviled for "ignoring" the ones we miss, and every decision to either include or not include some mapping will be viewed by someone as an intentional slight or attempted subjugation of one of the languages involved. Please, let's leave this kind of mapping up to each application. -- Doug Ewell * Fullerton, California, USA * RFC 4645 * UTN #14 http://home.roadrunner.com/~dewell http://www1.ietf.org/html.charters/ltru-charter.html http://www.alvestrand.no/mailman/listinfo/ietf-languages ˆ _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] The true meaning of "macrolanguage" (was: … Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? (was: John… Doug Ewell
- [Ltru] Re: Language tags in the future version of… Doug Ewell
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? (was: … Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? (was: John… Stephane Bortzmeyer
- [Ltru] Re: Language tags in the future version of… Frank Ellermann
- RE: [Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? (was: … Peter Constable
- [Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? (was: John… Doug Ewell
- Re: [Ltru] Re: Fallback vs. Macrolanguage? Addison Phillips