RE: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script
"McDonald, Ira" <imcdonald@sharplabs.com> Thu, 04 October 2007 16:01 UTC
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Subject: RE: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script
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Hi, I object to this whole paragraph. Because RFC 4646 *inserted* scripts between the two previously main subtags (language and region), Suppress-Script is necessary for MANY languages tagged in the future. It has nothing to do with an existing body of tagged material. Cheers, - Ira Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect) Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WG Blue Roof Music / High North Inc PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 phone: +1-906-494-2434 email: imcdonald@sharplabs.com -----Original Message----- From: John Cowan [mailto:cowan@ccil.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 7:35 PM To: Randy Presuhn Cc: LTRU Working Group Subject: Re: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script Randy Presuhn scripsit: > Suppress-Script is a compatibility measure, and as such is > only appropriate for languages whose subtags were added to > the registry before RFC 4646 was approved. +1 > Even for such > languages, Supress-Script SHOULD NOT be used unless there > exists a significant body (as determined by the Language > Subtag Reviewer) of material tagged before the approval of > RFC 4646 without a script subtag. Neither the LSR nor anyone else (not even people who work for search-engine companies) is in a position to make any such determination. Not all tagged material is open to public scrutiny. I am therefore opposed to adding this sentence. -- With techies, I've generally found John Cowan If your arguments lose the first round http://www.ccil.org/~cowan Make it rhyme, make it scan cowan@ccil.org Then you generally can Make the same stupid point seem profound! --Jonathan Robie _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: 10/4/2007 8:59 AM _______________________________________________ Ltru mailing list Ltru@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ltru
- [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script McDonald, Ira
- Re: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script Randy Presuhn
- Re: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script Mark Davis
- Re: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script John Cowan
- RE: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script Martin Duerst
- Re: [Ltru] Clarifying Suppress-Script John Cowan
- [Ltru] Re: Clarifying Suppress-Script Frank Ellermann