Re: [Lurk] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-lurk-cert-delegation-00.txt
Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 25 May 2016 13:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Lurk] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-lurk-cert-delegation-00.txt
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> Hi Yaron, > > On 12/05/2016 22:10, "Lurk on behalf of EXT Yaron Sheffer" > <lurk-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >> To solve the CDN-shouldn't-get-my-private-key scenario, I propose an >> almost trivial REST API, where the CDN contacts the content owner once a >> day and obtains a 3 day credential (private key plus short-term cert). >> >> Comments are welcome! > > Thanks very much for the draft. > > Your proposal has a few good properties: > - It's very simple, with minimal impact on existing implementations and > deployments; > - It scales very well, because it drastically reduces the number of calls > to the LURK box (somewhere about 10 orders of magnitude less than the > other proposals), and because it removes the need for keeping the LURK > box near the edge - and thus deploying more boxes as the CDN footprint > grows -- if the application cares about time-to-first-byte, as it usually > does; > - It makes the CDN less dependent on the availability of the LURK box; > - Lastly, it seems to provide the right ecosystem for solving the well > known revocation issues ([1], [2]) -- very similarly to a proposal from > Topalovic et al. [3]. > > The only "minus" point is that the CDN still holds the content provider's > private key. In fact, in your proposal, the "Remote Keys" in the LURK > acronym aren't remote at all :-) > > Cheers, t > > [1] https://www.imperialviolet.org/2011/03/18/revocation.html > [2] https://www.imperialviolet.org/2014/04/29/revocationagain.html > [3] http://www.w2spconf.com/2012/papers/w2sp12-final9.pdf > We could always rename the group LUCK - C for "cached"... Or else we could decide that we have another use case for remote signing boxes, one that's better than CDNs. Thanks, Yaron
- [Lurk] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sh… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [Lurk] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fossati, Thomas (Nokia - GB)
- Re: [Lurk] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [Lurk] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Fossati, Thomas (Nokia - GB)
- Re: [Lurk] Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Yaron Sheffer