Re: [Madinas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03.txt

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Fri, 07 October 2022 13:50 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "Lee, Yiu" <Yiu_Lee=40comcast.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "madinas@ietf.org" <madinas@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Madinas] I-D Action: draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03.txt
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Let me chime in about two topics:
- please accept my apologies because I will be unable to join the interim for the first 30 minutes probably ☹
- as this is an adopted WG document, the changes in the IETF drafts must be done based on discussion of the WG now ;-)

I understand that many MADINAS participants are new to the IETF, so making minor 'process mistakes' is expected ;-) No worries but let's try to avoid them later.

The more discussions on the mailing list (which is quite silent...) the better for the IETF community

Regards

-éric

On 07/10/2022, 14:47, "Madinas on behalf of Lee, Yiu" <madinas-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Yiu_Lee=40comcast.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

    @Mike: Sorry for the delay. It is in Github and ready for pull request.

    On 10/7/22, 04:02, "Madinas on behalf of Michael Richardson" <madinas-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:


        internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
            >         Title : Randomized and Changing MAC Address Use Cases Authors :
            > Jerome Henry Yiu L. Lee Filename : draft-ietf-madinas-use-cases-03.txt
            > Pages : 19 Date : 2022-10-06

        There are some typos in this document.
        I'd like to send edits/pull requests, but the authors don't seem to be using
        github, or understand it. The changes from this version are *NOT* in github.

        There is a meeting this afternoon that I will miss because I'm on an
        airplane.  I'm pretty disappointed at the pace of this WG, and the care in
        preperation of documents, and in the effectiveness of the WG meetings.
        I would stand up and loudly say this at the meeting, but I will be unable to
        be at it.

        There are changes in the recent document which do not seem to be result of
        any WG discussion or pull requests, and it is difficult to understand why
        they have occured.   For instance, the new intro to section 6 has a paragraph
        of irrelevant points.

        There are two pull requests for the draft-ietf-madinas-mac-address-randomization
        which those authors have not reviewed.  Do the authors know how to use the MT
        makefiles, and github?
        It is not clear to me how the two documents are really going to interact.

        The WG (and BOF) very very clearly said that we needed to document what are
        the different policies, (to name them), so that we can in a wiki map current
        OSes to well defined policies.

        --
        Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works
         -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-




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