Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
Jiazi YI <ietf@jiaziyi.com> Mon, 02 February 2015 14:32 UTC
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Subject: Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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hmm... my understanding was, if one creates a type X type extension Y registry, it's like create a tlv-fulltype with 256X+Y directly, which is flat (in turns of name). Of course, in turns of numbers, it's still hierarchical. thanks very much for your explanation. best Jiazi On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) < chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote: > I don’t believe that is so. If you allocate a type, you still allocate a > type extension registry. It’s just that (unless you define all of the type > extensions, like LINK_METRIC) the type extension registry is named only by > number, not by name. > > > > So if we were allocating LINK_STATUS today (after this draft) as type X > (sorry, in a hurry, not looking up) type extension 0, then we would create > a type X registry (not a LINK_STATUS registry) and then put an entry 0, > named LINK_STATUS, in that new registry. > > > > -- > > Christopher Dearlove > > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group > Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability > BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre > West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK > Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 > > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com > > BAE Systems (Operations) Limited > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, > Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK > Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 > > > > *From:* yi.jiazi@gmail.com [mailto:yi.jiazi@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Jiazi > YI > *Sent:* 02 February 2015 13:49 > *To:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK) > *Cc:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; Abdussalam Baryun; Ratliff, Stanley; > manet@ietf.org; Thomas Heide Clausen; Justin Dean > > *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 > > > > > > **** WARNING **** > > *This message originates from outside our organisation, either from an > external partner or the internet.* > > * Consider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any > attachments or reply. For information regarding **Red Flags** that you > can look out for in emails you receive, click here > <http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights/Documents/Red%20Flags.pdf>.* > * If you feel the email is suspicious, please follow this process > <http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights/Documents/Dealing%20With%20Suspicious%20Emails.pdf>.* > > Hi, > > > > I have reviewed the document. It's clear and in great shape. I think the > document is ready to go forward. > > > > Just one tiny point: > > > > In > > > > ------------------------- > > 3.1. Expert Review: Evaluation Guidelines > > > > For registration from the registries for Packet TLV Types, Message > > TLV Types, and Address Block TLV Types, the following guidelines > > apply, *in addition to* those given in section 6.1 in [RFC5444]: > > -------------------------- > > > > In fact, other than *adding* those rules, the document also obsoletes > some text in section 6.1 of RFC 5444. Specifically, it (partly) changes the > hierarchical allocation of RFC 5444: > > > > ---------------- > > These are Hierarchical Allocations, i.e., allocation of a type > > creates a registry for the extended types corresponding to that > > type... > > ------------------ > > > > So it would be helpful to indicate that the above text (or the > hierarchical allocation) is obsoleted, to avoid conflicts in the text. > > > > regards > > > > Jiazi > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) < > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote: > > To add my own minor WGLC nits, the TLV references ought to list RFC 7181 > before RFC 7188, and RFC 7188 ought not to be included for the GATEWAY TLV. > > > > -- > > Christopher Dearlove > > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group > Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability > BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre > West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK > Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 > > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com > > BAE Systems (Operations) Limited > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, > Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK > Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 > > > > *From:* manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Dearlove, > Christopher (UK) > *Sent:* 26 January 2015 10:40 > *To:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley' > *Cc:* manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas Heide Clausen'; 'Justin Dean' > *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 > > > > > > **** WARNING **** > > *This message originates from outside our organisation, either from an > external partner or the internet.* > > * Consider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any > attachments or reply. For information regarding **Red Flags** that you > can look out for in emails you receive, click here > <http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights/Documents/Red%20Flags.pdf>.* > * If you feel the email is suspicious, please follow this process > <http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights/Documents/Dealing%20With%20Suspicious%20Emails.pdf>.* > > Thanks for the reminder. As Adrian says, I agreed I’d roll this in with > any (other) WGLC comments. > > > > -- > > Christopher Dearlove > > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group > Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability > BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre > West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK > Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 > > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com > > BAE Systems (Operations) Limited > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, > Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK > Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 > > > > *From:* Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk <adrian@olddog.co.uk>] > *Sent:* 25 January 2015 10:09 > *To:* 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley' > *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas > Heide Clausen' > *Subject:* RE: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 > > > > > > **** WARNING **** > > *This message originates from outside our organisation, either from an > external partner or the internet.* > > * Consider carefully whether you should click on any links, open any > attachments or reply. For information regarding **Red Flags** that you > can look out for in emails you receive, click here > <http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights/Documents/Red%20Flags.pdf>.* > * If you feel the email is suspicious, please follow this process > <http://intranet.ent.baesystems.com/howwework/security/spotlights/Documents/Dealing%20With%20Suspicious%20Emails.pdf>.* > > Yup, Christopher said he would make the change together with any last call > comments. > > > > Adrian > > > > *From:* Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com > <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>] > *Sent:* 25 January 2015 03:29 > *To:* Ratliff, Stanley > *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); adrian@olddog.co.uk; Justin Dean; > manet@ietf.org; Thomas Heide Clausen > *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 > > > > There was a respond regarding this document but still no change (I think > the authors noted that it will be changed), so still it is not accepted > from my side until the amendment done, I will review again and if no > respond from me then that means I still request the amendments. > > > > AB > > > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Ratliff, Stanley <sratliff@idirect.net> > wrote: > > Hello Working Group Participants, > > Please see the email thread below. This document is now in Working Group > Last Call. The Last Call will run through Feb. 6, 2015. Please review the > document and submit any comments to the list on or before that date. > > Lack of a response on-list will be viewed as acceptance of the document. > > Regards, > Stan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dearlove, > > Christopher (UK) > > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 8:42 AM > > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org > > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen' > > Subject: Re: [manet] Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 > > > > I wouldn't expect less than 2 weeks. But sometimes it's longer, I just > don't > > want longer. Or think it justified. > > > > -- > > Christopher Dearlove > > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications, > > Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology > > Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK > > Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com > > | http://www.baesystems.com > > > > BAE Systems (Operations) Limited > > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace > > Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England & Wales > > No: 1996687 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk] > > Sent: 23 January 2015 13:37 > > To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean'; > manet@ietf.org > > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen' > > Subject: RE: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 > > > > ----------------------! 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It makes no difference to any existing > > protocols. > > > We need to it order to advance draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology. > > > I hope > > we > > > can have a short WGLC period on this one. > > > > > > -- > > > Christopher Dearlove > > > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications, > > > Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology > > > Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK > > > Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 > > > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com > > > > > > BAE Systems (Operations) Limited > > > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace > > > Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK Registered in England & Wales > > > No: 1996687 > > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************** > > **** > > > ****** > > > This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended > > > recipient and may also be privileged. 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- [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Ratliff, Stanley
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Adrian Farrel
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Jiazi YI
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Jiazi YI
- Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00 Dearlove, Christopher (UK)