Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00

Jiazi YI <ietf@jiaziyi.com> Mon, 02 February 2015 14:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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hmm... my understanding was, if one creates a type X type extension Y
registry, it's like create a tlv-fulltype with 256X+Y directly, which is
flat (in turns of name).
Of course, in turns of numbers, it's still hierarchical.

thanks very much for your explanation.

best

Jiazi

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) <
chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote:

>  I don’t believe that is so. If you allocate a type, you still allocate a
> type extension registry. It’s just that (unless you define all of the type
> extensions, like LINK_METRIC) the type extension registry is named only by
> number, not by name.
>
>
>
> So if we were allocating LINK_STATUS today (after this draft) as type X
> (sorry, in a hurry, not looking up) type extension 0, then we would create
> a type X registry (not a LINK_STATUS registry) and then put an entry 0,
> named LINK_STATUS, in that new registry.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Dearlove
>
> Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group
> Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability
> BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre
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> *From:* yi.jiazi@gmail.com [mailto:yi.jiazi@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Jiazi
> YI
> *Sent:* 02 February 2015 13:49
> *To:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
> *Cc:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; Abdussalam Baryun; Ratliff, Stanley;
> manet@ietf.org; Thomas Heide Clausen; Justin Dean
>
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
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> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have reviewed the document. It's clear and in great shape. I think the
> document is ready to go forward.
>
>
>
> Just one tiny point:
>
>
>
> In
>
>
>
> -------------------------
>
> 3.1.  Expert Review: Evaluation Guidelines
>
>
>
>    For registration from the registries for Packet TLV Types, Message
>
>    TLV Types, and Address Block TLV Types, the following guidelines
>
>    apply, *in addition to* those given in section 6.1 in [RFC5444]:
>
> --------------------------
>
>
>
> In fact, other than *adding* those rules, the document also obsoletes
> some text in section 6.1 of RFC 5444. Specifically, it (partly) changes the
> hierarchical allocation of RFC 5444:
>
>
>
> ----------------
>
> These are Hierarchical Allocations, i.e., allocation of a type
>
>       creates a registry for the extended types corresponding to that
>
>       type...
>
> ------------------
>
>
>
> So it would be helpful to indicate that the above text (or the
> hierarchical allocation) is obsoleted, to avoid conflicts in the text.
>
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
> Jiazi
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Dearlove, Christopher (UK) <
> chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote:
>
> To add my own minor WGLC nits, the TLV references ought to list RFC 7181
> before RFC 7188, and RFC 7188 ought not to be included for the GATEWAY TLV.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Dearlove
>
> Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group
> Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability
> BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre
> West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK
> Tel: +44 1245 242194 |  Fax: +44 1245 242124
>
> chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com
>
> BAE Systems (Operations) Limited
> Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre,
> Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK
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>
>
> *From:* manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Dearlove,
> Christopher (UK)
> *Sent:* 26 January 2015 10:40
> *To:* adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley'
> *Cc:* manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas Heide Clausen'; 'Justin Dean'
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
>
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> Thanks for the reminder. As Adrian says, I agreed I’d roll this in with
> any (other) WGLC comments.
>
>
>
> --
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> Christopher Dearlove
>
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> Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability
> BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre
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> *From:* Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk <adrian@olddog.co.uk>]
> *Sent:* 25 January 2015 10:09
> *To:* 'Abdussalam Baryun'; 'Ratliff, Stanley'
> *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org; 'Thomas
> Heide Clausen'
> *Subject:* RE: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
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> Yup, Christopher said he would make the change together with any last call
> comments.
>
>
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
> *From:* Abdussalam Baryun [mailto:abdussalambaryun@gmail.com
> <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* 25 January 2015 03:29
> *To:* Ratliff, Stanley
> *Cc:* Dearlove, Christopher (UK); adrian@olddog.co.uk; Justin Dean;
> manet@ietf.org; Thomas Heide Clausen
> *Subject:* Re: [manet] WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
>
>
>
> There was a respond regarding this document but still no change (I think
> the authors noted that it will be changed), so still it is not accepted
> from my side until the amendment done, I will review again and if no
> respond from me then that means I still request the amendments.
>
>
>
> AB
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Ratliff, Stanley <sratliff@idirect.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Working Group Participants,
>
> Please see the email thread below. This document is now in Working Group
> Last Call. The Last Call will run through Feb. 6, 2015. Please review the
> document and submit any comments to the list on or before that date.
>
> Lack of a response on-list will be viewed as acceptance of the document.
>
> Regards,
> Stan
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: manet [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dearlove,
> > Christopher (UK)
> > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 8:42 AM
> > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk; 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean'; manet@ietf.org
> > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen'
> > Subject: Re: [manet] Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
> >
> > I wouldn't expect less than 2 weeks. But sometimes it's longer, I just
> don't
> > want longer. Or think it justified.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher Dearlove
> > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications,
> > Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology
> > Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK
> > Tel: +44 1245 242194 |  Fax: +44 1245 242124
> chris.dearlove@baesystems.com
> > | http://www.baesystems.com
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> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:adrian@olddog.co.uk]
> > Sent: 23 January 2015 13:37
> > To: Dearlove, Christopher (UK); 'Stan Ratliff'; 'Justin Dean';
> manet@ietf.org
> > Cc: 'Thomas Heide Clausen'
> > Subject: RE: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
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> > Yes, thanks for doing this work.
> >
> > I wouldn't change WG process for this doc, but 2 weeks is not so long in
> the
> > scheme of things.
> >
> > If you get it moving soon, I can clear this and the MT I-D within my
> tenure.
> >
> > A
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
> > > [mailto:chris.dearlove@baesystems.com]
> > > Sent: 23 January 2015 10:51
> > > To: Stan Ratliff (ratliffstan@gmail.com); Justin Dean
> > (jdean@itd.nrl.navy.mil);
> > > manet@ietf.org
> > > Cc: adrian@olddog.co.uk; Thomas Heide Clausen
> > > (thomas@thomasclausen.org)
> > > Subject: Request WGLC of draft-ietf-manet-tlv-naming-00
> > >
> > > As the subject line says, I (on behalf of the authors) would like to
> > > request a
> > WGLC
> > > of this document.
> > >
> > > As a reminder, this is purely an administrative matter for IANA,
> > > allowing us
> > to
> > > have our TLVs named properly. It makes no difference to any existing
> > protocols.
> > > We need to it order to advance draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-multitopology.
> > > I hope
> > we
> > > can have a short WGLC period on this one.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Christopher Dearlove
> > > Senior Principal Engineer, Information Assurance Group Communications,
> > > Networks and Image Analysis Capability BAE Systems Advanced Technology
> > > Centre West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK
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