Re: [manet] IETF89 preliminary minutes

Ulrich Herberg <ulrich@herberg.name> Sat, 08 March 2014 05:48 UTC

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Hello Abdussalam,

see below


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Abdussalam Baryun <
abdussalambaryun@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Ulrich,
>
> Quick Minutes amendment points:
>
> -Your draft in the last presentation was asked to be adopted by WG but not
> to be in WGLC.
>

That is correct. I updated the minutes accordingly. Thanks.


>
> -There was only one WG chair present, the minutes show that there were
> two. Please delete the name that was not in session chair position in the
> room.
>

Joe is WG co-chair. I had already made clear that he was not attending the
session by adding "(absent)".


>
> -Names of participants when they input are not consistent. Please add:
> Abdussalam Baryun (AB) in start, then use AB in all following
> inputs. Please do same for Teco, Rick, Stan. Also abbreviate These
> following not related to names; CP, JC, EB, RT, etc.
>

In the latest update, I have expanded each name at least once. If you want
to have full consistency (with abbreviations), then I invite you to send me
the updated text file.


>
> - the name should be Rick Taylor (RT), please amend and then use RT,
> because the surname was repeated different ( as Tayler).
>

I corrected Tayler to Taylor.


>
> -IMHO we need to make minutes clear of participant hat or power. For
> example WG chair which was Stan or SR, please show his power if he is
> talking as chair, as SR (WG chair) and if he says I am as participant then
> only put SR. (This point can be checked with chair or AD if acceptable or
> not).
>

I disagree. In my opinion, it would be inappropriate for the minute takers
to interpret with which "hat" each speaker was talking. Important is to
know who said what.



>
> -Also IMHO when Adrian the AD talked as AD, please make it Adrian (WG AD).
>

There is no "WG AG". There is a responsible AD for each WG. It is clear
from the WG page that Adrian is our responsible AD. In my opinion, there is
no need to repeat that in the minutes.



> We had two AD, so Stewart input may add to it (WG AD). (This point can be
> checked with chair or AD if acceptable or not).
>

I am not sure what you request here. I expanded the name correctly. You can
check on the IESG page that Stewart was AD at the time of the meeting.


>
> I will try to listen to the recording to see if there are more comments.
>

You are free to do so.

Best regards
Ulrich


>
> Thanks Ulrich, Stan, Justin and Alex.
>
> Best Wishes,
>
> AB
>
> On Saturday, March 8, 2014, Ulrich Herberg wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I uploaded the preliminary minutes to:
>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/89/minutes/minutes-89-manet
>>
>> Please verify correctness and send edits to me by email.
>> Many thanks to Justin and Axel for taking the minutes. I have edited and
>> merged them.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Ulrich
>>
>