Re: [manet] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7181 (4874)

Justin Dean <bebemaster@gmail.com> Wed, 25 January 2017 18:42 UTC

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From: Justin Dean <bebemaster@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:41:57 +0000
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Subject: Re: [manet] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7181 (4874)
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I prefer Chris' first proposal as it's what I do in my code to preserve
other metadata associated with the entry. The delete then add is just as
clean consepually but not how I tend to do things.  Both of Chris'
proposals are more clear in the intent (although functionally identical)
than the proposed change.

Justin

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017, 12:58 PM Christopher Dearlove <
christopher.dearlove@gmail.com> wrote:

> The point should be that both produce functionally identical results, it's
> a question of which is clearer. Whichever is written, an implementation can
> always do either, or even a third option - there's a specific permission
> given to do whatever you like as long as you behave as if you followed the
> rules precisely. I'm fairly sure there are implementations that take
> advantage of that in places (not necessarily here).
>
> (I'm doing this on a phone, without being able to check details. But I'm
> assuming the preference I gave below is still my preference. But others may
> have other opinions.)
>
> --
> Christopher Dearlove
> christopher.dearlove@gmail.com
>
> On 25 Jan 2017, at 11:48, Alvaro Retana (aretana) <aretana@cisco.com>
> wrote:
>
> Christopher:
>
>
>
> Thanks for looking into this report.
>
>
>
> I don’t have an opinion as to which option is better, but I do have a
> question:  What is implemented and deployed?   Section 17. (Information
> Base Changes), which is the header for the changes the follow (including of
> course 17.1) makes the process normative and mandatory: “The changes
> described in the following sections MUST be carried out…”  So it is
> important to choose the “right” solution.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Alvaro.
>
>
>
> On 12/1/16, 5:00 AM, "Dearlove, Christopher (UK)" <
> chris.dearlove@baesystems.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Author.
>
>
>
> There is an issue, and the proposed resolution would work, and is probably
> the minimal textual change. But it's potentially confusing creating a tuple
> to immediately change it.
>
>
>
> I can see two possible better (in my opinion) texts, I'd appreciate
> comment (especially from co-author) on preference to recommend as
> correction (including possibly for version I dislike).
>
>
>
> NEW (1):
>
>
>
>    If the router changes its originator address, then:
>
>
>
>    1.  If there is an Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr = old originator address
>
>
>
>        then modify it as follows:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr := new originator address
>
>        *  O_time := current time + O_HOLD_TIME
>
>
>
>        otherwise create an Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr := new originator address
>
>        *  O_time := current time + O_HOLD_TIME
>
>
>
> NEW (2):
>
>
>
>    If the router changes its originator address, then:
>
>
>
>    1.  If there is an Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr = old originator address
>
>
>
>        then remove it.
>
>
>
>    2.  Create an Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr := new originator address
>
>        *  O_time := current time + O_HOLD_TIME
>
>
>
> I think I prefer NEW (2).
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Dearlove
>
> Senior Principal Engineer
>
> BAE Systems Applied Intelligence Laboratories
>
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> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: RFC Errata System [mailto:rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
> <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org>]
>
> Sent: 01 December 2016 08:30
>
> To: T.Clausen@computer.org; Dearlove, Christopher (UK);
> philippe.jacquet@alcatel-lucent.com; ulrich@herberg.name;
> akatlas@gmail.com; db3546@att.com; aretana@cisco.com; sratliff@idirect.net;
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> Cc: nmalykh@gmail.com; manet@ietf.org; rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org
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> Subject: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7181 (4874)
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> The following errata report has been submitted for RFC7181, "The Optimized
> Link State Routing Protocol Version 2".
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> http://www.rfc-editor.org/errata_search.php?rfc=7181&eid=4874
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> --------------------------------------
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> Type: Technical
>
> Reported by: Nikolai Malykh <nmalykh@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Section: 17.1
>
>
>
> Original Text
>
> -------------
>
>    If the router changes its originator address, then:
>
>
>
>    1.  If there is no Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr = old originator address
>
>
>
>        then create an Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr := old originator address
>
>
>
>        The Originator Tuple (existing or new) with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr = new originator address
>
>
>
>        is then modified as follows:
>
>
>
>        *  O_time := current time + O_HOLD_TIME
>
>
>
>
>
> Corrected Text
>
> --------------
>
>    If the router changes its originator address, then:
>
>
>
>    1.  If there is no Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr = old originator address
>
>
>
>        then create an Originator Tuple with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr := old originator address
>
>
>
>        The Originator Tuple (existing or new) with:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr = old originator address
>
>
>
>        is then modified as follows:
>
>
>
>        *  O_orig_addr := new originator address
>
>
>
>        *  O_time := current time + O_HOLD_TIME
>
>
>
>
>
> Notes
>
> -----
>
> At the time of the modification Originator Tuple with O_orig_addr = new
> originator address does not yet exist.
>
>
>
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> --------------------------------------
>
> RFC7181 (draft-ietf-manet-olsrv2-19)
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Title               : The Optimized Link State Routing Protocol Version 2
>
> Publication Date    : April 2014
>
> Author(s)           : T. Clausen, C. Dearlove, P. Jacquet, U. Herberg
>
> Category            : PROPOSED STANDARD
>
> Source              : Mobile Ad-hoc Networks
>
> Area                : Routing
>
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