RE: [manet] AODV Question
Jitesh Shah <jiteshshahin@yahoo.com> Fri, 14 November 2003 04:27 UTC
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Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 04:25:31 +0000
From: Jitesh Shah <jiteshshahin@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [manet] AODV Question
To: DANIEL BYRNE <daniel.byrne@adtran.com>, manet@ulfius.com, manet@ietf.org
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Hi Daniel, I completely agree with you when you suggest that one must take care of the future needs when we are in the development stage. We might have to face a situation in the real life when we might actually need more than a byte. The things being in development stage, I believe perhaps this is the right time to incorporate the changes rather than evolving with AODV 1.1 at a later stage :-) Rgds Jitesh --- DANIEL BYRNE <daniel.byrne@adtran.com> wrote: > Agreed. A branched chain configuration would be > difficult to support with only a BYTE. My point is > that although most everyone involved in development > and testing of this protocol have envisioned a > 'cluster of connected nodes' arrangement, the > reality is the sum total of all possible topolgies > in a wireless network of this type is potentially > limitless. Limited in effect by only the range of > the radios in the network. How are we to know how > some future person or organization will use this > protocol? Will they need the extra BYTE? Should we > place artificial limits on the protocol by > purposefully limiting the hop count, address range, > etc.? > > One solution is the "extensions" field in the latest > draft of AODV could potentially provide a means to > expand upon the protocol in the future if > neccessary. > http://moment.cs.ucsb.edu/pub/draft-perkins-manet-aodvbis-00.txt > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jitesh Shah [mailto:jiteshshahin@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 7:36 AM > To: manet@ulfius.com; manet@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [manet] AODV Question > > > Hi, > > It depends on how you see the network. If you are > refering to a network which has a CHAIN topology > then > the byte used for RREP and RREQ might be way > insignificant. But when you refer to a well > connected > network then the byte seems sufficient. > > Rgds > Jitesh > > --- Robert Cain <manet@ulfius.com> wrote: > > Connectivity is the number of other nodes each node > > can reach with 1 hop. > > Therefore a connectivity of 10 means there is 10 > > nodes that a can reach > > directly. Obviously in an actual network this > would > > vary from node to node. > > > > > > Rob Cain :-) > > > > > > >What does the connectivity parameter specify? Is > > it saying in 100,000 > > nodes only 10 nodes would be connected? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: Robert Cain [mailto:tgm@ulfius.com] > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 11:13 AM > > >To: DANIEL BYRNE > > >Subject: Re: [manet] AODV Question > > > > > > > > >1 byte seems OK to me. > > > > > >With some simple analysis assuming a circular > > homogeneous network of node > > >count K and a reasonable connectivity C then the > > radius of the network in > > >hops can be derived to be the square root of K/C. > > Which for a network size > > >of 100,000 and a connectivity of 10 gives a hop > > count radius of 100. > > Seeing > > >as a network of size 100,000 will be probably at > > practical limits of size > > >due to performance degradation then I think 1 > byte > > may well be enough. > > > > > >hope that helps :-) > > > > > >Rob Cain > > > > > >>if the > > >> > > >>"AODV routing protocol is designed for mobile ad > > hoc networks > > >> with populations of tens to thousands of > mobile > > nodes" > > >> > > >>why is the HopCount limited to only a BYTE? > This > > effectively limits the > > >number of hops to 255. Why not expand the hop > > count to two bytes into the > > >reseved region of the RREQ packet. Something > > similar could be done with > > >the RREP packet as well. > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>manet mailing list > > >>manet@ietf.org > > >>https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > >> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > manet mailing list > > manet@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic > ringtones. > Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet ________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! India Mobile: Download the latest polyphonic ringtones. Go to http://in.mobile.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ manet mailing list manet@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet
- [manet] AODV Question DANIEL BYRNE
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Robert Cain
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Jitesh Shah
- RE: [manet] AODV Question DANIEL BYRNE
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Robert Cain
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Jitesh Shah
- Re: [manet] AODV Question Manel Guerrero
- Re: [manet] AODV Question Antti Tuominen
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Erik Nordström
- Re: [manet] AODV Question Einar Vollset
- Re: [manet] AODV Question Erik Nordström
- RE: [manet] AODV Question DANIEL BYRNE
- RE: [manet] AODV Question DANIEL BYRNE
- RE: [manet] AODV Question John Mullen
- RE: [manet] AODV Question DANIEL BYRNE
- Re: [manet] AODV Question Charles E. Perkins
- RE: [manet] AODV Question John Mullen
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Manfredi, Albert E
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Pete Sholander
- RE: [manet] AODV Question Erik Nordström