Re: [manet] No MANET Meeting Scheduled for Yokohama

"Ratliff, Stanley" <sratliff@idirect.net> Tue, 20 October 2015 19:33 UTC

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From: "Ratliff, Stanley" <sratliff@idirect.net>
To: John Dowdell <john.dowdell.ietf@gmail.com>, Thomas Clausen <ietf@thomasclausen.org>
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John,

WGLC may be requested/consensus determined on the mailing list.

As it regards a forum to …”present the not inconsiderable progress that both drafts have made”, I think you just presented that notion… ;-)

Regards,
Stan


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Subject: Re: [manet] No MANET Meeting Scheduled for Yokohama

Given also that both AODVv2 and DLEP are likely to be asking for last call, how do the chairs propose to move forwards in decision making? Since there is no meeting, we are unable to ask for last call in the meeting, nor do we have a forum to present the not inconsiderable progress that both drafts have made.

What now?

John

On Saturday, 10 October 2015, Thomas Clausen <ietf@thomasclausen.org<mailto:ietf@thomasclausen.org>> wrote:
Given the significant volume of outstanding unresolved, and raised-but-un-addressed, issues with current WG deliverables, and given that rechartering has been announced but never discussed on the list, it would have been more than reasonable to agree with the WG (by way of the mailing list) in well in advance -- rather than for the chair to unilaterally decide to cancel any further discussions at the WG meeting *after* the deadline for "final agenda" has lapsed.

As far as I understand, in the IETF WG decisions are made by way of consensus among a populace larger than the WG chairs.


Thomas

> On 10 Oct 2015, at 21:23, Stan Ratliff <ratliffstan@gmail.com<javascript:;>> wrote:
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> Hello WG participants,
>
> Just an FYI - there's no MANET meeting scheduled for the upcoming IETF in Yokohama. The consensus amongst the chairs was that we need to progress the AODVv2 and DLEP drafts, *then* proceed with a re-charter. Given that, the thought was that a face-to-face isn't necessary; the work can and should progress on the list.
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> Both of the pending drafts (AODVv2 and DLEP) have new revisions coming - most likely this next week. Please stay tuned for updates, and your review & comments will be welcome and appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Stan
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