[manet] Re: Call for adoption: draft-dearlove-manet-olsrv2-responsive-03 (Ends 2026-04-29)

Christopher Dearlove <christopher.dearlove@gmail.com> Thu, 30 April 2026 10:34 UTC

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Thanks for these. As you can see unless I think carefully it’s easy to slip into proper British English spelling rather than American English spelling. (I believe the RFC editor says something like “You can use American or British spellings, except no one actually does use British English spellings”.)

My plan, would the document be accepted as a WG item, and unless the chairs object, is to fix the minor and incontrovertible points - spellings, including one Fred noted, and the RFC - in a -00 and then address any more significant points (yours, Donald’s) that might require a bit of thought in a -01 to follow not long after. If I do that and thus don’’t address all your points in -00, I won’t have ignored them.

> On 30 Apr 2026, at 10:24, Velt, R. (Ronald) in 't <Ronald.intVelt@tno.nl> wrote:
> 
> As a MANET WG participant who has read and reviewed this draft, I support adoption.
> 
> I found a few nits in addition to the ones already flagged by Donald Eastlake:
> 
> - Already communicated to the author directly: Informative reference RFC 6779 was obsoleted by RFC 7939
> 
> - Spelling consistency: Two instances of "behaviour(s)" (section 1, section 7) versus many of "behavior"; two instances of "neighbour(s)" (section A.3, first paragraph) versus many of "neighbor";
> One instance of "signalled" (section A.3, third paragraph), which, if American spelling is adopted, should be "signaled".
> 
> - A sentence fragment in Appendix A, intro does not read well: “as while is expected that while”. Suggest “as while it is expected that”
> 
> - In section A.1, second paragraph, first sentence,  I would suggest replacing "single messages" by "non-periodic messages" or "event-driven messages".
> 
> Thanks,
> Ronald
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Subject: Call for adoption: draft-dearlove-manet-olsrv2-responsive-03 (Ends
>> 2026-04-29)
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>> This message starts a manet WG Call for Adoption of:
>> draft-dearlove-manet-olsrv2-responsive-03
>> 
>> This Working Group Call for Adoption ends on 2026-04-29
>> 
>> Abstract:
>>   This specification describes an optional Topology Control (TC)
>>   message that can be sent by an OLSRv2 router.  This is permitted, but
>>   not suggested, by the existing protocol, but is here recommended for
>>   use in some networks.  The original motivation for this message came
>>   from the circumstances of a mostly stable network, in the most
>>   extreme case updated only by messages responding to the arrival and
>>   departure of routers, in which case the additional TC message is not
>>   just recommended but required.  However, the additional message could
>>   be useful in reducing the routing convergence time in any network in
>>   which messages are sent at lengthy intervals.
>> 
>>   This specification updates RFC 7181 "The Optimized Link State Routing
>>   Protocol version 2 (OLSRv2)".
>> 
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