Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update
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From: "Stan Ratliff (sratliff)" <sratliff@cisco.com>
To: Abdussalam Baryun <abdussalambaryun@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update
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I'm going to "+1" one (and only one) sentence in this email thread: > > On 7/6/12, Thomas Heide Clausen <thomas@thomasclausen.org> wrote: >> I do not see the need for this terminology document in MANET: > In my opinion as a working group participant, this is an unnecessary distraction for the working group, and will not result in a meaningful document. I will not support it. Regards, Stan On Jul 23, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: > Hi > > Comment inline below: > > On 7/6/12, Thomas Heide Clausen <thomas@thomasclausen.org> wrote: >> I do not see the need for this terminology document in MANET: >> >> o The RFCs published by the WG all do a good job of defining their proper >> terminology and conventions in the sections, aptly named to this >> effect -- and something which both the WG and the IESG has been very >> vigilant in ensuring. > > Agree > >> >> o Extracting this terminology, to present without the context of the RFC in >> >> which they are introduced and used, is both futile and a source >> of errors and confusion. > > It is not extracting any thing it is locating information in easy > location to be reached efficiently by researchers, or other WG > participants. In another reason, for example the RFC5444 and RFC6130 > is providing a MANET standard, while any RFC in this WG is specifying > its own terminology and message format, but the reason was to bring > RFCs to have similar formating functions. The terminology RFCs in many > WGs does the same. RFC2501 is doing a good job to bring understanding > of MANET which the terminology informational RFCs are doing in each > concept/group-charter. > >> >> o The domain evolves, new protocols appear and introduce new concepts, >> terms. This is captured by carefully defining such in the RFC specifying >> that protocol. Any terminology document (aside from all its other issues, >> indicated in this list) would likely be obsolete and incomplete before >> the >> ink with which it was written was dry. > > So when new concepts appear any WG needs to prepare updates I-D to > their information/standards/experiments so that knowledge is > consistent and concepts are updated as will (including terminology > document can be updated). Please note that our documents in MANET are > a source of information to any participant in IETF, so we need to > focus to not only produce new concepts/work but we see into > update/obsolete previous work if possible/necessary. other wise why > did the IETF make an option possibility to *update* and *obsolete* if > they are not needed for WGs. > >> >> o All RFCs in MANET uses no more than a small subset of the total MANET >> (and Internet) terminology. A collective terminology document would, >> therefore, necessarily be adding entropy to any single RFC and to the >> WG (and to implementers of the WG protocols). > > Please note that the bigest reason of terminology is that when WG > participants discuss things they don't misunderstand. Please note > there are many times in MANET WG there are misunderstood in technical > terms (I have references on the list to many incidence if you ask), so > if experts have this problem we need to solve it by a RFC document, > also we need to give the protocol user a sense of the general/specific > terminology (as we have MANET general format, MANET general > understanding, MANET general direction). > >> >> o Certainly, a large number of terms in this document are entirely out of >> scope >> (such as those pertaining to non-MANET developed concepts or protocols, >> e.g., those developed in other parts of the IETF), are useless for the WG >> (such as, but not exclusively, "communication channel" and "communication >> >> medium"), are by nature ambiguous (such as, but not exclusively, "Upper >> Layer" >> and "Node"), carry a legacy that renders them difficult to use (such as, >> but >> not exclusively, "Logical (virtual) Link", "Physical Link", and "Link"). >> > > I disagree that thoes terms are out of scope of the I-D of the MANETs > context terminology, because those terms you mentioned were used in > one/some MANET RFCs, so they need to be explained to bring all terms > together to make overall knowledge to internet community. Your > argument is right only if we are not specifying network-protocols, so > because we are doing a type of network, then our documents for it > SHOULD be *connected* by some combined meaning/knowledge *words*, so > other (i.e. all internet community) can understand, without any > possibility of misunderstanding (there are many examples I can give if > you want). > > I thank you for your comments, and I will prepare a new version for the I-D, > > Best Regards > > Abdussalam Baryun > ===================== >>>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Abdussalam Baryun wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All >>>>> >>>>> I completed the first version of draft on terminology and submited the >>>>> draft yesterday (with getting some techniq problem), but needed to >>>>> post to know the community feedback and advise. There are other terms >>>>> that was not yet included which will need some advise from you. >>>>> Thanking you, >>>>> >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> Abbreviations Used in The submitted Document >>>>> >>>>> AH Authentication Header >>>>> DAD Duplicate Address Detection >>>>> DPD Duplicate Packet Detection >>>>> DoS Denial of Service >>>>> ESP Encapsulating Security Payload >>>>> IP IPv4 or IPv6 >>>>> ICMP Internet Control Message Protocol >>>>> IIB Interface Information Base >>>>> ETX Estimated Expected number of Transmission >>>>> FIB Forwarding Information Base >>>>> LQI Link Quality Indicator >>>>> L2 Data Link Layer (i.e. 2nd layer in ISO model) >>>>> L3 Internet Layer (i.e. 3rd layer in ISO model) >>>>> LLN Low power and Lossy Network >>>>> MAC Mediam Access Control >>>>> MIB Management Information Base >>>>> MTU Maximum Transmission Unit >>>>> NBMA Non-Broadcast Multi-Access link >>>>> NHDP Neighborhood Discovery Protocol >>>>> ND IP Neighbor Discovery >>>>> OSPF Open Shortest Path First >>>>> RIB Routing Information Base >>>>> SMF Simplified Multicast Forwarding >>>>> TCP Transmission Control Protocol >>>>> UDP User Datagram Protocol >>>>> >>>>> 2.3 Definitions for MANET Terms >>>>> >>>>> 2.3.1 Terms Definition of MANET Communication: >>>>> >>>>> Communications’ Technology or Facility: >>>>> The means employed by two or more devices/subsystems to transfer >>>>> and/or receive information between them in one way or two way >>>>> communication. MANET communications often uses the wireless >>>>> transmission medium(s) and MAY use some wired mediums (e.g. free >>>>> space, air, water, antenna, coaxial cables, etc.) >>>>> >>>>> Communication Medium: >>>>> The transceiver system (e.g. such as L2 systems, IEEE802.11 systems, >>>>> satellite system, etc.) that the routing device uses to communicates >>>>> through the transmission medium(s), by providing connectionless and/or >>>>> connection services that MAY be established. The system medium >>>>> includes MAC layer and MAY include the physical Layer. >>>>> >>>>> Communication Channel: >>>>> A subdivision of the physical communication medium (i.e. radio carrier >>>>> signal bandwidth, or the system bandwidth) allowing possibly shared >>>>> independent uses of the medium. Channels may be made available by >>>>> subdividing the medium into; distinct time slots, distinct spectral >>>>> bands, or coding sequence, etc. >>>>> >>>>> MANET Protocol: >>>>> The communication system/subsystem that operates and maintains the >>>>> ad hoc communication technology or facility within MANET. MANET routing >>>>> Protocols often apply distributed algorithms/techniques to disseminate >>>>> or forward routing messages within a MANET routing domain. >>>>> >>>>> Topology: >>>>> An abstract representation of a network (physical or logical), as a >>>>> graph (G) whose topology is defined by a set of routers/bridges (V) >>>>> that >>>>> communicate through set of links (E), where the G = (V, E). >>>>> >>>>> Physical-level Topology: >>>>> A topology of the communication medium networks consists of routing >>>>> devices and physical links. This topology information is updated by >>>>> devices’ technology in the L2 information Base. >>>>> >>>>> Network-level Topology: >>>>> A topology of the communication system networks consists of routers and >>>>> links. This topology information is updated by routers in its RIB. >>>>> >>>>> Multihop MANET: >>>>> A MANET that its node(s) MAY need(s) more than one IP hop to reach the >>>>> destination. >>>>> >>>>> Reactive Routing: >>>>> An on-demand based routing protocol that operates route discover and >>>>> maintainance the route(s), to reach the demanded destination(s). >>>>> >>>>> Proactive Routing: >>>>> A topology RIB based routing protocol that operates routes and >>>>> maintains >>>>> the network topology, to reach its known destination(s). Each router >>>>> maintains routes to all reachable destinations at all times, whether or >>>>> not there is currently any demand to deliver packets to those >>>>> destinations. >>>>> >>>>> Upper Layer: >>>>> a protocol layer above IP layer (e.g. as TCP, UDP, OSPF). >>>>> >>>>> MANET Domain: TBD >>>>> >>>>> MANET Signaling: >>>>> Sending and exchanging some MANET messages/information. >>>>> >>>>> 2.3.2 Terms Definition of MANET Elements >>>>> >>>>> Node: >>>>> A device/subsystem that MUST implement IP and SHOULD participate in >>>>> MANET signaling. It either runs a MANET routing protocol or participate >>>>> in MANET signaling. >>>>> >>>>> Router: >>>>> A MANET node that MUST implement a MANET routing protocol and forwards >>>>> IP packets not explicitly addressed to itself. >>>>> >>>>> Host: >>>>> A node that is not a router. All destinations in MANET that receive >>>>> delivered data are hosts. >>>>> >>>>> Link: >>>>> A link between two node interfaces. This link may be Logical >>>>> (i.e. virtual) link or physical link. Logical links are between two >>>>> logical interfaces and physical links are between two physical >>>>> interfaces. Links are either unidirectional or bidirectional >>>>> (links may be on-link and off-link: see RFC4861). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Physical Link: >>>>> a communication facility or medium over which the nodes can >>>>> communicate at the link layer, i.e., the layer immediately below >>>>> IP. Physical interfaces are the nodes’ attachment to physical links. >>>>> Physical Link types are point-to-point, NBMA, multicast capable, >>>>> and shared-media, etc (see link types in ND [RFC4861]). >>>>> >>>>> Logical (virtual) Link: >>>>> a communication facility (at L3, or upper-layer) over which nodes can >>>>> communicate. This logical link is between two MANET interfaces exists >>>>> if either can be heard by the other. >>>>> >>>>> Link MTU: >>>>> the maximum transmission unit (i.e. maximum unit size in octets), that >>>>> can be conveyed in one transmission unit over the link. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Node Interface: >>>>> A node's point of attachment to a link. Each node MUST have at least >>>>> one >>>>> interface that SHOULD be assigned an IP address. If there is/are more >>>>> than one interface(s) per node then the additional interface(s) MAY be >>>>> assigned an IP address. If an interface is not assigned to an IP >>>>> address >>>>> it MUST be identified by the MANET routing protocol. An interface MAY >>>>> be >>>>> assigned one or more addresses. >>>>> >>>>> MANET Interface: >>>>> A node interface that participate in; exchange MANET information used >>>>> in >>>>> MANET routing or exchange information in MANET neighbor node discovery >>>>> (e.g as the term used in RFC6130). A MANET interface MUST be assigned >>>>> to >>>>> least one address to communicate. A router interface MUST be >>>>> assigned a routable address which is the main address for the >>>>> interface. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2.3.3 Terms Definition of MANET Identifications: >>>>> >>>>> An interface MAY be assigned one or more addresses. If the interface is >>>>> a logical interface it MAY be assigned to only logical addresses, but >>>>> if >>>>> it is a physical interface MAY be assigned with physical address >>>>> (e.g. MAC address) and/or logical address(es) (e.g. IP addresses, >>>>> MANET addresses). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> MANET Address >>>>> A MANET-subnet, node, or interface address. Node and interface >>>>> addresses >>>>> are either IP addresses or RFC5444 addresses. All subnet addresses are >>>>> unicast IP addresses. >>>>> >>>>> Address Block and TLV: as specified in RFC5444 >>>>> >>>>> Routable address: >>>>> A subnet address which can be a destination address. A router MUST be >>>>> able to distinguish a routable address from a non-routable address. >>>>> Broadcast, and multicast addresses, limited in scope to less than the >>>>> entire MANET, MUST NOT be considered as routable addresses. Anycast >>>>> addresses MAY be considered as routable addresses. >>>>> >>>>> Main address >>>>> A routable address (MANET address) that is assigned to one router's >>>>> MANET interface. >>>>> >>>>> Originator address: >>>>> A node address of the node that originated a MANET message (this >>>>> message >>>>> MUST include the originator address). It MAY be a routable or an >>>>> unroutable address. >>>>> >>>>> subnet prefix >>>>> A bit string that consists of some number of initial bits of an IP >>>>> address. >>>>> >>>>> Interface identifier >>>>> the remaining low-order bits in the node's IP address after the subnet >>>>> prefix. A number used to identify a node's interface on a link. >>>>> >>>>> 2.3.4 Terms Definition of MANET exchange information formats: >>>>> >>>>> Packet: >>>>> A MANET packet of a header plus payload. These packets are either >>>>> IP packets or RFC5444 packets. RFC5444 packet MUST be encapsulated >>>>> in IP packet. Packets are generated by nodes to be sent to >>>>> destination(s) through MANET or through the Internet. RFC5444 packets >>>>> information MAY not be used only by MANET routers. >>>>> >>>>> Message: >>>>> A MANET data message or routing control message. Routing control >>>>> messages are either MANET routing protocol messages or/and RFC5444 >>>>> messages. >>>>> >>>>> Type Length Value coding (TLV): >>>>> A generic way to represent MANET information (as in [RFC5444] and >>>>> [RFC5497]). >>>>> >>>>> Frame: >>>>> A L2 protocol TLV with a header and payload. In some technologies the >>>>> L2 >>>>> operates a MANET routing protocol as a local area networking system. >>>>> Frames MAY encapsulate MANET packets to be tunneled through a >>>>> telecommunication network. >>>>> >>>>> Route Request Message (RREQ) >>>>> A message is used to discover a valid route to a particular >>>>> destination address, called the RREQ Target Node. When a router >>>>> processes a RREQ it learns routing information on how to Originator >>>>> Node. >>>>> >>>>> Route Reply Message (RREP) >>>>> A message is used to disseminate routing information about >>>>> the RREP Target Node to the RREQ Originator Node and the intermediate >>>>> routers. >>>>> >>>>> Route Error Message (RERR) >>>>> A message is used to disseminate the information that a route is >>>>> not available for one or more particular addresses. A RERR message is >>>>> used to indicate that a router does not have a forwarding route >>>>> to one or more particular addresses. >>>>> >>>>> 2.3.5 Terms Definition Related to MANET Protocol Operation: >>>>> >>>>> Hop-by-hop Routing: (TBD) >>>>> A dynamic routing that routes to destination by routing table. >>>>> >>>>> Source Routing: (TBD) >>>>> A dynamic routing that its route path is provided in the IP packet. >>>>> >>>>> Route Discovery: TBD >>>>> >>>>> Route Maintenance: TBD >>>>> >>>>> Neighbor discovery: (TBD) >>>>> A node discovers neighbors only if the node receives from it's >>>>> neighbors. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Multipoint relay (MPR): (TBD) >>>>> A router X1 is an MPR for a router Y1, if router Y1 has indicated >>>>> its selection of router X1 as an MPR in a recent HELLO message. >>>>> Router X1 may be a flooding MPR for Y1 if it is indicated to >>>>> participate in the flooding process of messages received from >>>>> router Y1, or it may be a routing MPR for Y1, if it is indicated to >>>>> declare link-state information for the link from X1 to Y1. It may >>>>> also be both at the same time. >>>>> >>>>> MPR selector: >>>>> A router, Y, is a flooding/routing MPR selector of router X if >>>>> router Y has selected router X as a flooding/routing MPR. >>>>> >>>>> Router Parameters: >>>>> boolean or numerical values, specified for each router, and not >>>>> specific to an interface. A router MAY change router parameter >>>>> values at any time, subject to some MANET constraints. >>>>> >>>>> MANET Routing Metric: >>>>> A MANET routing cost that is governed by specific rules and properties >>>>> defined by the MANET routing protocol which captures specific link or >>>>> node characteristics. Examples of basic metrics are hop-count, ETX, >>>>> LQI, >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> Distance Vector Metric >>>>> A metric class related to rules of the MANET interface and MANET path >>>>> distance. The metric can be calculated by the distance vector routing >>>>> algorithm class used by the MANET routing protocol. A metric of the >>>>> distance a message or piece of information has traversed. The minimum >>>>> value of distance is the number of IP hops traversed. >>>>> >>>>> Link State Metric >>>>> A metric type related to the MANET network-topology status and logical >>>>> links' states. This metric is calculated by the link state routing >>>>> algorithm class used by the MANET routing protocol. A metric type maybe >>>>> EXT, LQL, etc. >>>>> >>>>> Link Metric: TBD >>>>> >>>>> Neighbor Metric: TBD >>>>> >>>>> Path accumulated: >>>>> The RREQ message accumulates intermediate routers that are in path to >>>>> destination(s). >>>>> >>>>> Protocol Sequence Number: >>>>> A Sequence Number related to a MANET protocol that maintained by each >>>>> protocol subsystem process. This sequence number is used by other >>>>> subsystems to identify the temporal order of protocol information >>>>> generated. >>>>> >>>>> Router Sequence Number: >>>>> A router sequence number is maintained by each router process. The >>>>> sequence number is used by other routers to identify the temporal >>>>> order of routing information generated and ensure loop-free routes. >>>>> >>>>> MANET Information Base: >>>>> A collection of information (in Table or Cache structure) maintained >>>>> by MANET protocols and which is to be made available to MANET routing >>>>> protocols. An Information Base may be associated with a MANET router >>>>> or with MANET interface (e.g. route request table, IIB, RIB, FIB, MIB). >>>>> >>>>> RIB Entry: >>>>> The RIB entry is a conceptual data structure. Implementations may use >>>>> any internal representation that conforms to the semantics of a route >>>>> as specified in the router specification. >>>>> >>>>> 3. IP Considerations and Terminology >>>>> >>>>> All MANET nodes MUST implement IP and all MANET routers MUST >>>>> run/implement at least one MANET routing protocol. The >>>>> terminologies described in this document can be used for >>>>> IPv4-MANET and IPv6-MANET. The IPv4 addresses MAY be used in IPv6 >>>>> packets but IPv6 addresses MUST not be in IPv4 packets. >>>>> >>>>> IP address: >>>>> IPv4 addresses or IPv6 addresses. >>>>> >>>>> IP Packet: >>>>> The packet header plus payload as specified in [RFC791] and [RFC2460] >>>>> for IPv4 and IPv6 respectively. It can encapsulate RFC5444 packets as >>>>> specified by RFC5498. >>>>> >>>>> Mobile IP considerations: >>>>> Mobile IP terms are provided in [RFC6275], and this technology >>>>> assists nodes while connected through the Internet domain(s). MANET >>>>> is an infrastructure-less network that is able to communicate with >>>>> the Internet (i.e. an IP infrastructure network). >>>>> >>>>> 4. Security Consideration and Terminology >>>>> >>>>> It is RECOMMENDED that MANET routing protocols consider security >>>>> issues because the MANET's transmission medium is wireless which make >>>>> it vulnerable to attacks [ANJUM][RFC4593]. In some situations the >>>>> routing information while traversing the MANET MAY be used by an >>>>> intruder node, to obtain MANET data traffic or/and attack the MANET >>>>> [HERBERG]. Forwarding protocols that use DPD techniques MAY be >>>>> vulnerable to DoS attacks such as [RFC6621]. MANETs MAY be secured >>>>> by using IPsec, AH, DAD, and ESP techniques, and other. However, >>>>> it is RECOMMENDED that MANET detects attackers and possible threats. >>>>> >>>>> The following are some terminology related to MANET threats and >>>>> security. >>>>> >>>>> Attacker: A node, present in the network and which intentionally seeks >>>>> to compromise information based in MANET router(s). The Attacker MAY be >>>>> a compromised MANET router if obtained MANET identity or routing >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> Compromised MANET Router: An attacker router, present in MANET and >>>>> which generates syntactically correct routing control messages. Control >>>>> messages emitted by compromised router(s) may contain additional >>>>> information, or omit information, as compared to a control message >>>>> generated by a non-compromised router located in the same MANET >>>>> topological position. >>>>> >>>>> Legitimate MANET Router: A MANET router, which is not a Compromised >>>>> MANET Router. >>>>> >>>>> Jamming Attack: >>>>> The attacker transmits massive amounts of interfering radio traffic, >>>>> which will prevent legitimate traffic (e.g., routing and data traffic) >>>>> on all or part of the MANET. Indirect jamming attacks MAY occur by >>>>> influencing Legitimate MANET Router to transmit unnecessary >>>>> information. >>>>> >>>>> Eavesdropping: >>>>> Obtaining a copy by the attacker of the transmitted MANET routing >>>>> information or the transmitted data information from its neighbor's >>>>> transmitted radio packet. Attacker’s processes MANY be used by attacker >>>>> to mislead routing. Eavesdropping does not pose a direct threat to the >>>>> MANET or to its routing. >>>>> >>>>> Identity Spoofing: >>>>> Attacker sends routing messages, pretending to have the MANET identity >>>>> of another node. >>>>> >>>>> Link Spoofing: >>>>> Compromised MANET router sends routing messages to neighbor node(s) >>>>> providing incorrect set of link information. >>>>> >>>>> Replay Attack: >>>>> A Compromised router in one MANET region records control traffic >>>>> information and replays the recorded information in a different MANET >>>>> region (this type of attack is also called the Wormhole attack). >>>>> >>>>> Broadcast Storm: >>>>> Compromised MANET router may attack the MANET by attempting to change >>>>> the MANET flooding algorithm(s) to increase routing overheads or/and to >>>>> increase the route discovery delay. Broadcast storm degrades the data >>>>> traffic delivery and MANET performance. >>>>> >>>>> Falsification in MANET: >>>>> The compromised MANET router sends false routing information into >>>>> MANET. >>>>> False routing information received in MANET, MAY create unrealistic >>>>> information bases. >>>>> >>>>> ICMP Attacks: >>>>> The generation of ICMPv6 error messages may be used by compromised >>>>> MANET >>>>> router to attempt DoS attacks by sending an error-causing source >>>>> routing >>>>> header in back-to-back datagrams. As the ICMP messages are passed to >>>>> the >>>>> upper-layer processes, it is possible to perform attacks on the upper >>>>> layer protocols (e.g., UDP, TCP). Protocols at the upper layers are >>>>> RECOMMENDED to perform some form of validation to ICMP messages (using >>>>> the information contained in the payload of the ICMP message) before >>>>> acting upon them. >>>>> >>>>> Source Routing Attacks: TBD >>>>> >>>>> Acknowledgments: >>>>> >>>>> This work has used/modified terms of the following documents: RFC2462, >>>>> RFC2501, RFC3561, RFC3626, RFC3753, RFC4728, RFC4861, RFC5444, >>>>> RFC6130, RFC6621, [AODVv2], [OLSRv2], and [HERBERG], >>>>> Gratefully acknowledge to the IETF community and all contributions. >>>>> >>>>> Reference: >>>>> [HERBERG] Herberg, U., Yi, J., Clausen, T.,"Security Threats for >>>>> NHDP", Work in progress, March, 2012. >>>>> [ANJUM] Anjum, F. and Mouchtaris, P. "Security for Wireless Ad Hoc >>>>> Networks", John Wiley & Sons, March 2007. >>>>> ISBN: 978-0-471-75688-0. >>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>> >>>>> I hope to get some advise from the Internet community to make the >>>>> definitions more suitable/accurate, because I MAY misunderstood. >>>>> Thanking you, >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards >>>>> >>>>> Abdussalam Baryun >>>>> University of Glamorgan, UK >>>>> ===================== > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- [manet] MANET Terminology Update Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Stan Ratliff
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Charles E. Perkins
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Teco Boot
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- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Don Sturek
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- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Abdussalam Baryun
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- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Stan Ratliff (sratliff)
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- Re: [manet] MANET Terminology Update Don Sturek
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