Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric implementation
Thomas Heide Clausen <ietf@thomasclausen.org> Thu, 10 May 2012 10:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric implementation
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I do agree with Chris - I've got about 5 other I-Ds taking cycles right now, so I do not have a good idea - but will think about it once they're out the door. That said, I do think that it is a good initiative, Henning, and I would encourage (and offer assistance on) production of an ETX metric for OLSRv2. I also would very much encourage documenting "The FunkFeuer Exeperience" in an informational RFC; I believe that as you guys have an operational, large and long-standing MANET running, it'd be valuable information for others deploying such networks. Thus, 100% support from me on that also. Best, Thomas On May 10, 2012, at 11:08 , Dearlove, Christopher (UK) wrote: > I'm not a great fan of either. Allocating a whole range of type extensions may include type extensions with no need to communicate. And if link metric type X needs to communicate, it won't necessarily send link metrics as its supplementary information. But as you say, an ETX specific TLV isn't nice either. > > I realise that anyone who says "I don't like either" should make a third proposal. Right now I don't have one, though I will think about it. This is really to say if anyone has any alternative suggestions, they would be welcome. > > -- > Christopher Dearlove > Senior Principal Engineer, Communications Group > Communications, Networks and Image Analysis Capability > BAE Systems Advanced Technology Centre > West Hanningfield Road, Great Baddow, Chelmsford, CM2 8HN, UK > Tel: +44 1245 242194 | Fax: +44 1245 242124 > chris.dearlove@baesystems.com | http://www.baesystems.com > > BAE Systems (Operations) Limited > Registered Office: Warwick House, PO Box 87, Farnborough Aerospace Centre, Farnborough, Hants, GU14 6YU, UK > Registered in England & Wales No: 1996687 > > -----Original Message----- > From: manet-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:manet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Henning Rogge > Sent: 10 May 2012 08:01 > To: manet@ietf.org > Subject: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric implementation > > Hi, > > I am working on reviving my Freifunk-ETX draft again and thinking about > to split it into two different drafts. One that discusses the general > aspects of an ETX metric implementation. > > Most times ETX metrics are described as a symmetric metric, where the > link cost does include both directions of the link, and I think there > are several link layer designs where combining the packet loss in both > directions makes sense (not necessarily with the same weight). > > For this both sides of the Metric implementation have to communicate > with each other outside the normal metric TLV described in the OLSRv2-draft. > > Do you think it makes sense to ask IANA to allocate a generic "Private > Link Metric Data" TVL, that will use the same extension types as the > metric TLV in OLSRv2 and allows a metric implementation to exchange data > with the other side of the link? > > Allocating an "ETX specific TLV" sounds even worse. > > Henning Rogge > -- > Diplom-Informatiker Henning Rogge , Fraunhofer-Institut für > Kommunikation, Informationsverarbeitung und Ergonomie FKIE > Kommunikationssysteme (KOM) > Neuenahrer Straße 20, 53343 Wachtberg, Germany > Telefon +49 228 9435-961, Fax +49 228 9435 685 > mailto:henning.rogge@fkie.fraunhofer.de http://www.fkie.fraunhofer.de > GPG: E1C6 0914 490B 3909 D944 F80D 4487 C67C 55EC CFE0 > > > ******************************************************************** > This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended > recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended > recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender. > You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or > distribute its contents to any other person. > ******************************************************************** > > _______________________________________________ > manet mailing list > manet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/manet
- [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric impleme… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric imp… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric imp… Henning Rogge
- Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric imp… Thomas Heide Clausen
- Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric imp… Dearlove, Christopher (UK)
- Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric imp… L. Aaron Kaplan
- Re: [manet] Question about OLSRv2 link metric imp… Thomas Heide Clausen