Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz <shmuel+mail-abuse-feedback-report@patriot.net> Wed, 08 February 2012 20:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt
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In <17BC3B48-8118-442C-A51C-8D7A7043C982@wordtothewise.com>, on 02/08/2012 at 06:26 AM, Steve Atkins <steve@wordtothewise.com> said: >8.1 talks about sending unsolicited reports of authentication failure >while 9.1 states that unsolicited reports of authentication failure >MUST NOT be sent. One of those likely needs to change (probably 8.1). I agree. If there's no abuse issue and the sender has not requested feedback on authentication failure then there's not much point in sending the feedback. If the e-mail client is sending legitimate mail that fails validation then the potential volume should be enough to justify the MUST NOT. 8.5 and 9.2 also have MUST. In the case of 8.5, it does not seem to satisfy 6. in RFC 2119. In the case of 9.2, I believe that it is legitimate in order to prevent loops. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT Atid/2 <http://patriot.net/~shmuel> We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003)
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- [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt internet-drafts
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Bank Security
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Scott Kitterman
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Bank Security
- Re: [marf] I-D Action: draft-ietf-marf-as-07.txt Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… BANK SECURITY
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Bank Security
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Dave CROCKER
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] meaning of signatures, was I-D Action:… Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)