Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery
Douglas Otis <dotis@mail-abuse.org> Fri, 25 June 2010 02:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery
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On 6/24/10 4:57 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Jeff Macdonald<macfisherman@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy<msk@cloudmark.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Does the WG consider this draft a good basis for discussion? >>> Although jdfak-marf reporting is okay, I must admit to preferring the approach found in: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daboo-srv-email-05 This srv mail approach seems like a natural place to make these extensions, which allows a way to prioritize a set of preferences. I am also a bit concerned with the number of options, especially the option that allows use of http. By itself, http is fine, but we have seen attempts to place captcha front-ends on these types of inputs, which severely limits their utility. They seem share the attitude with those that put spam filters on their abuse feedback. No kidding. There will be a number of games played by administrators seeking ways divert this input, perhaps to keep it off management's radar. All of the options in the jdfalk-marf report approach are likely to create hurdles and barriers that aren't needed. Using a simpler strategy found with srv-email seems better along with a more constrained set of input parameters. If there is any interest in consider this as an alternative, I'd be happy to create a draft along these lines as well. -Doug
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery John Levine
- [marf] FBL subscriptions Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] marf-reporting-discovery authentication John Levine
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery John Levine
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Douglas Otis
- [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Yakov Shafranovich
- [marf] A. Automated discovery of reporting path f… Alessandro Vesely
- [marf] B. Automated discovery of reporting path f… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] A. Automated discovery of reporting pa… J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Douglas Otis
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery John Levine
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery SM
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery SM
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery John Levine
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] FBL subscriptions Douglas Otis
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] FBL subscriptions J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Douglas Otis
- Re: [marf] FBL subscriptions John Levine
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery Douglas Otis
- [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-reportin… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Yakov Shafranovich
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… madkins05
- [marf] other options (was Re: Poll: Importing dra… J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] draft-jdfalk-marf-reporting-discovery J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Douglas Otis
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… SM
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Steve Atkins
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Barry Leiba
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Jeff Macdonald
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Douglas Otis
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… John Levine
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Jacqui Caren-home
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Alessandro Vesely
- [marf] marf-reporting-discovery authentication Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] marf-reporting-discovery authentication J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] marf-reporting-discovery authentication Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
- Re: [marf] Poll: Importing draft-jdfalk-marf-repo… Barry Leiba
- [marf] list of current approval criteria (was Re:… J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] list of current approval criteria Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] list of current approval criteria J.D. Falk
- Re: [marf] list of current approval criteria Alessandro Vesely
- Re: [marf] list of current approval criteria J.D. Falk