Re: [Masque] New Version Notification for draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions-00.txt

Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com> Thu, 14 April 2022 15:19 UTC

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Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2022 11:19:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Masque] New Version Notification for draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions-00.txt
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In the interest of stimulating discussion, the key question for this draft
is: how does one configure a client to use MASQUE?  I would like the answer
to be "copy a single URL into a field on the settings page".  The question
then becomes: what does this URL need to convey?  I think it needs to
convey both CONNECT-UDP and CONNECT-IP (in case the client only supports
one or the other), DoH (to ensure that DNS queries get the same treatment
as other network traffic), and possibly other proxy-like services as they
are  invented.

There are many interesting open questions here:
- Should we have less flexibility (e.g. keeping all services on a single
origin)?
- Do we need more flexibility, to express things like split tunnels?
- Can we avoid, or at least separate out, the turing-complete
expressiveness of PAC files?
- Should this somehow integrate with the Provisioning Domain (PvD) concepts?

Please review,
Ben Schwartz

On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:20 PM Ben Schwartz <bemasc@google.com> wrote:

> Hi MASQUE,
>
> I've written a very short draft that describes how to find a MASQUE server
> if (1) you're starting with an HTTP CONNECT proxy or (2) you want to use
> multiple services in combination (e.g. CONNECT-UDP + CONNECT-IP + DoH +
> ...).
>
> This design can also serve as a building block for a solution to the key
> consistency problem in Oblivious HTTP, which I've written up separately:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schwartz-ohai-consistency-doublecheck/
> .
>
> --Ben Schwartz
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
> Date: Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:20 PM
> Subject: New Version Notification for
> draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions-00.txt
> To: Benjamin M. Schwartz <bemasc@google.com>
>
>
>
> A new version of I-D, draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions-00.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Benjamin Schwartz and posted to the
> IETF repository.
>
> Name:           draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions
> Revision:       00
> Title:          HTTP Access Service Description Objects
> Document date:  2022-04-07
> Group:          Individual Submission
> Pages:          6
> URL:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions-00.txt
> Status:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions/
> Html:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions-00.html
> Htmlized:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-schwartz-masque-access-descriptions
>
>
> Abstract:
>    HTTP proxies can operate several different kinds of access services.
>    This specification provides a format for identifying a collection of
>    such services.
>
> About This Document
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>    This note is to be removed before publishing as an RFC.
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>    Status information for this document may be found at
>    https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-schwartz-masque-access-
>    descriptions/.
>
>    Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
>    https://github.com/bemasc/access-services.
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