Re: [MBONED] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm-04.txt
"Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com> Fri, 30 August 2019 22:15 UTC
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From: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
To: Tim Chown <Tim.Chown@jisc.ac.uk>, "mboned@ietf.org" <mboned@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [MBONED] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm-04.txt
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] New Version Notification for draft-ietf-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm-04.txt
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Hi Tim,
I looked at the changes, and it’s much better, thanks.
I saw a few more nits remaining or newly introduced:
1. Top of 2.3. SSM Routing protocols:
SSM is detailed in [RFC4607]. It mandates the use of PIM-SSM for
routing of SSM. PIM-SSM as merely a subset of PIM-SM ([RFC7761]).
- "as" -> "is", I think?
2. Bottom of 3.2.1 Reduced network operations complexity:
receivers. Bidir-PIM therefore trades state complexity with
(potentially large amounts) of unnecessary traffic.
- dropping the parenthetical here would leave an ungrammatical sentence
("complexity with of unnecessary..."), so I suggest rewording it. Maybe:
"Bidir-PIM therefore trades state complexity with
unnecessary traffic (potentially a large amount)."
3. 2nd last P of 4.8. Not Precluding Intradomain ASM:
"necessary due to application requirements (see Section 4.4."
- still contains unclosed paragraph (should insert a ')' before the final period)
4. top of 5. Future interdomain ASM work
- "mechaisms" -> "mechanisms"
I think with fixes for these very minor changes I support advancing the document.
Best,
Jake