[MBONED]Re: [iesg] Mike Bishop's No Objection on for: (with COMMENT)
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From: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
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Yes, that was the one. I was surprised a constraint couldn't be placed to use the existing grouping, but restrict it to IP addresses rather than hostnames. If not, that's fine. ________________________________ From: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2026 12:56:48 PM To: Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> Cc: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; austin.mantz@hpe.com <austin.mantz@hpe.com>; draft-ietf-mboned-amt-yang@ietf.org <draft-ietf-mboned-amt-yang@ietf.org>; mboned-chairs@ietf.org <mboned-chairs@ietf.org>; mboned@ietf.org <mboned@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [iesg] Mike Bishop's No Objection on for: (with COMMENT) Hi Mahesh, My reading of Mike’s comment is that he was referring to “Section 4.2.2, paragraph 13”, which seems to me to be this part: CURRENT: Design note: The four data nodes ('gateway-address', 'gateway- port', 'local-address', and 'local-port) do not reuse the standard "udp-client" grouping defined in [I-D.ietf-netconf-udp-client-server] because AMT requires the Gateway to be a specific IP address (inet:ip-address), while the "udp-client" grouping allows the use of domain names (inet:host). Reuse could lead to configuration errors or runtime risks, so a custom structure must be defined to enforce this constraint. Hence, grouping, refine, etc. Mike, can you please explicit the part you were referring to? Cheers, Med De : Mahesh Jethanandani <mjethanandani@gmail.com> Envoyé : mercredi 15 avril 2026 18:26 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Cc : Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; austin.mantz@hpe.com; draft-ietf-mboned-amt-yang@ietf.org; mboned-chairs@ietf.org; mboned@ietf.org Objet : Re: [iesg] Mike Bishop's No Objection on for: (with COMMENT) Hi Med, On Apr 14, 2026, at 11:49 PM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote: Hi Mike, Please see one comment inline. Cheers, Med -----Message d'origine----- De : Mike Bishop via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org<mailto:noreply@ietf.org>> Envoyé : mercredi 15 avril 2026 00:18 À : The IESG <iesg@ietf.org<mailto:iesg@ietf.org>> Cc : austin.mantz@hpe.com<mailto:austin.mantz@hpe.com>; draft-ietf-mboned-amt-yang@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-mboned-amt-yang@ietf.org>; mboned-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:mboned-chairs@ietf.org>; mboned@ietf.org<mailto:mboned@ietf.org> Objet : [iesg] Mike Bishop's No Objection on draft-ietf-mboned- amt-yang-08: (with COMMENT) Mike Bishop has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-mboned-amt-yang-08: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) ------------------------------------------------------------------ COMMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------ Section 4.2.2, paragraph 13 Forgive my lack of YANG expertise, but doesn't YANG support constraints to further restrain what values are acceptable? Would a "must" not have worked here rather than creating a more constrained type? [Med] YANG supports some means to constrain data types (when, must, range, etc.). However, there are only a subset of possibilities when it comes to refining a reused grouping (see https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7950#section-7.13.2 or https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9907#name-yang-data-node-constraints) This is actually why some constraints are embedded in a description statement. Are we talking about the same module? I am not sure why grouping is being brought up here. There is no grouping in the module, or a refine statement. Mike, were you referring to this description or something else? "Each entry contains parameters for an AMT Relay Address identified by the 'family' key. Under normal operation, these addresses SHOULD belong to the same address family indicated by 'family'. Any mismatch is an indication of abnormal configuration and is therefore allowed to be reported. Even if not, how is this mismatch being detected in the module? Cheers. Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com<mailto:mjethanandani@gmail.com> ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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