Re: [media-types] [MEDIAMAN] IETF 117 agenda

On 7/20/23 10:39, Martin J. Dürst wrote:
> Hello Harald,
> 
> On 2023-07-19 21:44, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>> My preliminary agenda for the meeting is now uploaded here:
>>
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/materials/agenda-117-mediaman-00
>>
>> The github version, on which you can do PRs or suggest edits, is here:
>>
>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-mediaman/admin/blob/main/agenda-ietf-117.md
> 
> Many thanks for putting together an agenda. I tried to suggest some 
> edits, but it's asking me to fork, so I thought proposing them here 
> directly would be easier.
> 
>> The text is reproduced below. See you there!
>>
>> Agenda IETF 117
>> Date and time: Thursday, 1530-1630 US-PT
>>
>> Room Name: Golden Gate 6
>>
>> Duration: 1 hour
>>
>> Introduction, Note Well, scribe, agenda bash (5 min)
>>
>> Standard questions will be:
>> * Who has read the draft?
>> * Who supports going to Last Call at this time?
>> * Who thinks there are issues that must be resolved before going to 
>> Last Call?
>>
>> Principles for new Top Level types (10 min)
>>
>> Presentation of draft-ietf-mediaman-toplevel (Martin Duerst): 5 min 
> 
> Duerst -> Dürst (just copy-and-paste)
> 
>> (note: -01 will be the basis for discussion.)
> 
> I hope not. The draft is currently at -03, so let's look at that 
> version. Also, I don't plan to do any presentation if I can avoid it 
> (but you can try to twist my arm if you think a presentation is 
> needed/helpful).

None should be needed. There should be one chair slide:
- Presenting result from Last Call (1 review, in favor)
- Asserting that this represents consensus to send to IESG, and 
challenging the room to agree or argue against it

> 
>> Discussion (5 min)
>> Decision: Send to IETF Last Call, or revise
>> Top level type "Haptics" (10 min)
>>
>> Presentation of draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics (Muthusamy): 5 min
> 
> I've read that draft, and hope to send in my comments soon.

Good.
> 
>> Discussion (5 min)
>>
>> Decision: Conclude on open issue resolution, either reissue WG Last 
>> Call or go to IETF Last Call
>> Multiple suffixes for media types (10 min)
>>
>> Presentation of draft-ietf-mediaman-suffixes (Manu Sporny): 5 min
> 
> I've read that draft, and hope to send in my comments soon.

Good. The biggest issue here is whether to go for either.
- An RFC obsoleting all of RFC 6838
- An RFC obsoleting section 6 of 6838 (the suffixes part)
- An RFC only talking about the multiple suffixes issue

The presence of willing editors is a critical determinant!

> 
>> Discussion (5 min)
>>
>> Decision: Go for WG Last Call, or await further revisions.
>> Community registration in the standards tree (15 min)
>>
>> Document: non-published "standards-tree" draft
> 
> It would be good if that draft could actually be published officially, 
> either with an AD approval or just after the publication ban ends.

Our meeting is on Thursday, so "after the publication ban ends" should 
work fine (or as good as it gets, given the constraints and the date).

> 
> Regards,   Martin.
> 
>> Introduction (Mark Nottingham) (5 min)
>> Discussion (10 min)
>> Decision: Adopt draft in WG (or not).
>> Wrapup, action items, followup (10 min)
>>
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