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Re: [media-types] New version (04) of draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics uploaded - Please review and comment

Yeshwant Muthusamy <ymuthusamy@immersion.com> Thu, 27 July 2023 17:08 UTC

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From: Yeshwant Muthusamy <ymuthusamy@immersion.com>
To: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, "Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>, "media-types@ietf.org" <media-types@ietf.org>
CC: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>, "yeshwant@yeshvik.com" <yeshwant@yeshvik.com>
Thread-Topic: [media-types] New version (04) of draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics uploaded - Please review and comment
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Subject: Re: [media-types] New version (04) of draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics uploaded - Please review and comment
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Harald, All,

The reference has been fixed in Section 4.2. Version 05 has just been uploaded: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics/05/

Comments/questions welcome.

Thanks,
Yeshwant


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-----Original Message-----
From: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 11:30 AM
To: Yeshwant Muthusamy <ymuthusamy@immersion.com>; Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>; media-types@ietf.org
Cc: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [media-types] New version (04) of draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics uploaded - Please review and comment

Martin is right.

The reference in 1 and 4 (intro) were correctly replaced with [toplevel], but the reference in 4.2 needs to continue to go to 6838, since [toplevel] has no text pertaining to the registration of subtypes.


On 7/27/23 17:21, Yeshwant Muthusamy wrote:
> Hi Martin,
>
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
> Your comment here regarding Section 4.2:
>
>>> In the other places, you correctly replaced [RFC6838] with [TOPLEVEL], but here, you need to keep [RFC6838]. [TOPLEVEL] doesn't deal with how to register subtypes, that's still in [RFC6838].
> seems inconsistent with Harald's comment in Github issue #5: 
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> Harald says that the registration procedure needs to reference TOPLEVEL in both Section 1 and 4 of the draft. The only reference to RFC6838 in Section 4 is in the line that you have issues with. I was just trying to address his comment in Issue #5.
>
> So, is Harald incorrect? Or have I just misunderstood his reference to Section 4 in issue #5?
>
> Harald, Martin: please clarify.
>
> Thanks,
> Yeshwant
>
>
> Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. | CTO
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin J. Dürst <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp>
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 4:48 AM
> To: Yeshwant Muthusamy <ymuthusamy@immersion.com>; 
> media-types@ietf.org
> Cc: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>; Murray S. Kucherawy 
> <superuser@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: New version (04) of draft-ietf-mediaman-haptics uploaded 
> - Please review and comment
>
> Hello Yeshwant, others,
>
> Sorry to be very late with this.
>
> On 2023-07-25 14:01, Yeshwant Muthusamy wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> I have just uploaded v04 of the haptics I-D. It incorporates *ALL* feedback received to date, specifically from Harald Alvestrand and Martin Dürst.
>>
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>> Harald, Martin: I would appreciate it if you are able to review it BEFORE Thursday's Mediaman WG session, if at all possible, and give your feedback. Hopefully, this version will cause Harald's NO to change to a YES.
> I've looked at it, and found just one minor problem:
>
>   >>>>
> New haptics formats should be registered using the online form 
> [Media-Type-Registration].  [TOPLEVEL] should be consulted on 
> registration procedures.
>   >>>>
>
> In the other places, you correctly replaced [RFC6838] with [TOPLEVEL], but here, you need to keep [RFC6838]. [TOPLEVEL] doesn't deal with how to register subtypes, that's still in [RFC6838].
>
> Regards,   Martin.
>
>
>> Regardless, all feedback is most welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Yeshwant
>>
>>
>> Yeshwant Muthusamy, Ph.D. | Consulting CTO 
>> ymuthusamy@immersion.com<mailto:ymuthusamy@immersion.com> | +1
>> 469-583-2171 [cid:image001.gif@01D9BE8B.1877DB60]
>> https://link/
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>> 2999 N. E. 191st Street, Suite 610
>> Aventura, FL  33180
>>
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