Re: [media-types] [Rats] registration for +cwt

Darrel Miller <darrel@tavis.ca> Sat, 15 April 2023 18:44 UTC

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From: Darrel Miller <darrel@tavis.ca>
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Subject: Re: [media-types] [Rats] registration for +cwt
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Michael,

Could you share what scenarios you envision for clients processing an application/eat+cwt as a cwt without understanding what an eat is?

It is my understanding that structured suffixes are not intended to convey instructions on how to parse a media type, but to provide a clients that are not familiar with the specific media type the ability to fall back to the more generic semantics of the suffix.  https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6839.html#section-2

I get the impression that primary goal of registering the set of media types https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-rats-eat-media-type-01.txt is to provide decoding instructions rather than conveying additional semantics.  I wonder whether registering just "application/eat" and a "format" parameter might be a simpler solution.

Darrel

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Subject: Re: [media-types] [Rats] registration for +cwt


Roy Williams (COSINE) <roywill@exchange.microsoft.com> wrote:
    > The question I have is if CBOR and COSE are simply
    > content-transfer-encodings and not content-type.  This gets into a
    > nebulous area when discussing reasoning over volumes of data.

    > If all the content is signed it would show as homogenous data
    > application/cose and thus any filtering would require tunnelling into
    > the payload which could be expensive.

Don't forget Accept: headers.

CBOR/COSE are not CTE.
(Base64 is CTE)


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