Re: [media-types] Last tracker issue for mediaman-suffixes

"Martin J. Dürst" <duerst@it.aoyama.ac.jp> Fri, 22 March 2024 07:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [media-types] Last tracker issue for mediaman-suffixes
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See below.

[This may be somewhat outdated if the change of direction that was "in 
the air" in Brisbane gets confirmed on the mailing list.]

On 2024-03-20 12:45, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> Registration entries are (relatively) cheap.
> 
> There seems to be no significant value to not registering all legal 
> sequences of suffixes, when the avoidance of doubt can be achieved by 
> registering them.
> 
> I think we currently have:
> 
> - if application/foo+bar+baz is to be used, it must be registered.
> 
> - +bar+baz must be registered
> 
> - +baz must be registered
> 
> - There is no registration required for application/foo or 
> application/foo+bar - these have no standard interpretation.

For those such as Orie and Manu who would prefer having gaps in the 
registration chain, it might make sense to allow comments to 
registrations saying that suffix or combination of suffixes on their own 
doesn't make sense without further additions.

Regards,   Martin.

> On 3/8/24 09:06, Manu Sporny wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 1:38 PM Orie Steele <orie@transmute.industries> 
>> wrote:
>>> Otherwise, I think this issue has been addressed by previous 
>>> feedback, and there is no new information that warrants reopening it.
>> Thank you for that summary, Orie. I agree with all of it.
>>
>> We tried it in the way Orie said he felt made sense (allow gaps in the
>> suffixes registry, because some "intermediate suffixes", like
>> "+json+jwt", probably won't be used). I (personally) prefer the same
>> approach as Orie (to allow gaps in the suffixes registry).
>>
>> However, there were strong objections to that approach during the last
>> meeting, so the only thing left to do is not allow gaps in the
>> suffixes registry. So far, we haven't gotten the strength of
>> objections to this "no gaps" approach that we did the other "allow
>> gaps" approach; on the contrary, it seems like those that would prefer
>> the "allow gaps" approach (Orie and myself) are willing to hold our
>> noses and go forward with the "no gaps" approach.
>>
>> -- manu
>>
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