RE: [MIB-DOCTORS] IfTypeReferences - ds3 and sip (SMDS) and coffe e
"Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> Mon, 07 August 2006 10:02 UTC
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From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
To: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
Subject: RE: [MIB-DOCTORS] IfTypeReferences - ds3 and sip (SMDS) and coffe e
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:02:20 +0200
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OK, so in my table I now have this comment: <!--label--> <c>sip</c> <!--ifType--> <c>31</c> <!--MIBoid--> <c>mib2.36</c> <!--MIBmodule--> <c>SIP-MIB</c> <!--Reference--> <c><xref target='RFC1694'/> (DS)</c> <!--comment--> <c>SMDS (sip here stands for SMDS Interface Protocol) Hope that suffices. Bert > -----Original Message----- > From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:dromasca@avaya.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2006 12:58 > To: Wijnen, Bert (Bert); Keith McCloghrie > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org; Cullen Jennings; Jon Peterson > Subject: RE: [MIB-DOCTORS] IfTypeReferences - ds3 and sip (SMDS) and > coffee > > > Expanding SIP in this case seems to me extremely important. I > am almost > tempted to suggest to add to the comment something like 'Warning: this > is NOT the Session Initiation Protocol'. > > Dan > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:bwijnen@lucent.com] > > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2006 10:16 PM > > To: Keith McCloghrie > > Cc: mib-doctors@ietf.org > > Subject: [MIB-DOCTORS] IfTypeReferences - ds3 and sip (SMDS) > > and coffee > > > > Interesting and strange stuff that I am finding. > > > > Keith answered: > > > > > 5. RFC 1694 is a later (than RFC 1304) reference for > 'sip(31)', > > > > > and RFC 2325 is needed as a reference if "coffee" > > > > > is included in the row. > > > > > I suggest it would be useful to expand the acronym to be: SIP > > > > > (SMDS Interface Protocol), but perhaps that negates the > > reference > > > > > to "coffee" ?? > > > > > > > > Hmmmm 2325 is an April 1st RFC. Should we list it at all? > > > > Cause I do not think that the sip IfType applies at all, > > it is more > > > > of a joke and might confuse people who do not understand > > the APril 1st RFCs. > > > > > > > > So I have for coffee: > > <!--label--> <c>coffee</c> > > <!--ifType--> <c>132</c> > > <!--MIBoid--> <c>transmission 132</c> > > <!--MIBmodule--> <c>COFFEE-POT-MIB</c> > > <!--Reference--> <c><xref target='RFC2325'/></c> > > <!--comment--> <c>April 1st RFC > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > It does mention ifType sip(31) too. > > </c> > > > > So that one does list sip(31), but I think that was a joke > > (e.g. take a sip of coffee). > > > > > > So I'd prefer to just list 1694. > > > > > > So, why aren't/haven't they been confused by: > > > > > > sip(31), -- SMDS, coffee > > > > > > in http://www.iana.org/assignments/ianaiftype-mib ?? > > Shouldn't we be > > > consistent ?? > > > > > > > The sip(31) SMDS documents (RFC1304 and RFC1694) do not > > contain the word coffee or Coffee. So I'd suggest to the iana > > to remove coffee from sip(31) comment. > > > > For sip(31) I now have: > > > > <!--label--> <c>sip</c> > > <!--ifType--> <c>31</c> > > <!--MIBoid--> <c>mib2.36</c> > > <!--MIBmodule--> <c>SIP-MIB</c> > > <!--Reference--> <c><xref target='RFC1694'/> (DS)</c> > > <!--comment--> <c>SMDS > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > initial: RFC1304-MIB <xref > > target='RFC1304'/> > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > obsoleted by: SIP-MIB <xref > > target='RFC1407'/> (PS) > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > sip OBJECT IDENTIFIER ::= { > > transmission 31 } > > </c> > > > > > > Do people think that the it is handy/useful to: > > - have the reference to the most current RFC > > - include the status (PS, DS...) > > - list the obsoleted RFCs as well > > - add the OID for "sip" (last line) ?? > > > > The reason I ask is that, now that I am going through all > > this in detail, it is easy to add. Problem might be: > > maintenance in the future. > > > > I wondered about this when I also composed the data for ds3(30): > > > > <!--label--> <c>ds3</c> > > <!--ifType--> <c>30</c> > > <!--MIBoid--> <c>transmission.30</c> > > <!--MIBmodule--> <c>DS3-MIB</c> > > <!--Reference--> <c><xref target='RFC3896'/> (PS)</c> > > <!--comment--> <c>DS3/E3 MIB > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > experimental: RFC1288-MIB <xref > > target='RFC1288'/> > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > obsoleted by: RFC1407-MIB <xref > > target='RFC1407'/> > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > obsoleted by: DS3-MIB <xref > > target='RFC2496'/> > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > obsoleted by: DS3-MIB <xref > > target='RFC3896'/> (PS) > > <vspace blanklines='0' /> > > ds3 MODULE-IDENTITY ::= { transmission 30 } > > </c> > > > > Oh well, comments always welcome. > > > > The more I poke into this, the more I see that it is a big > > hodge podge of approaches. And I wonder how a NMS can make > > sense out of it. > > > > Bert > > > > _______________________________________________ > > MIB-DOCTORS mailing list > > MIB-DOCTORS@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mib-doctors > > > _______________________________________________ MIB-DOCTORS mailing list MIB-DOCTORS@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mib-doctors
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