Re: [midcom] clarification requested on middlebox concept

Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> Wed, 27 November 2002 15:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [midcom] clarification requested on middlebox concept
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> In any case, it seems to me that we should keep in mind a bigger picture =
> where such 'midcom' transaction (say triggered by a SIP proxy of some =
> sort, or a Video app server, etc) would not only act in the NAT/FW side =
> of things, but also on the QoS side of things.

QoS is specifically out of scope.

> Sure, in such a larger picture, some may argue that the RSVP scheme from =
> a CPE device is the way to go. 

The NSIS working group is discussing an RSVP-like protocol
that will be used for QoS signaling and also middlebox
communication. 

> PS. going down this "multimedia control" route also begs the question of =
> why MGCP/Megaco was not considered as a possible 'midcom' protocol =
> candidate? 

It is still in the running - please read draft-ietf-midcom-
protocol-eval-06.txt.

Melinda
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