Re: [mif] Question about draft-liu-mif-api-extension-06

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 19 December 2011 00:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mif] Question about draft-liu-mif-api-extension-06
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On 2011-12-19 11:49, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Dec 18, 2011, at 5:17 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>   According to [RFC4007], a scope zone is identified by a Zone Identifier.
>   In practice, a scope zone often corresponds to a single interface, so
>   interfaces are also identified by Zone Identifiers. For consistency,
>   provisioning domains too are identified by Zone Identifiers. In the
>   simplest case, a single Zone Identifier will name an interface, a scope
>   zone, and a provisioning domian. In more complex cases, an interface,
>   the scope zone it reaches, and the corresponding provisioning domain
>   will have different Zone Identifiers.
> 
> So you're proposing to identify three different things with the same kind of identifier?

Yes. RFC4007 and current practice already mean that interfaces and scopes
use the same namespace, and this would be a seamless extension.

Note that it's a completely unstructured namespace that's local to
the host. It maps straight into draft-carpenter-6man-uri-zoneid
in a very natural way, too.

(We are still far from having a proper handle on naming and addressing
scopes; but that is a very different question that I've been poking at
uselessly for a while:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-referral-ps )

   Brian