Re: [mif] Questions in last 95th MIF meeting

Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com> Thu, 21 April 2016 20:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mif] Questions in last 95th MIF meeting
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Hello,

As discussed at the meeting at IETF 95:

1) Yes, I am working on PvDs
2) I believe MIF should recharter to focus on the remaining work (primarily, defining discovery and use of Explicit PvDs; and defining requirements for use and interaction with PvDs)
3) Yes, I would like to work on ideas and drafts for PvDs around the recharter items mentioned above

I think that the work that MIF has done to lay down the definitions of PvDs is useful, but there is a bit more work that should be done to make sure these concepts can be usefully applied to real-life scenarios that require explicit PvD configuration. Leaving that work by the wayside would potentially hinder other working groups that have mentioned MIF as a source of solutions for this space.

Thanks,
Tommy

> On Apr 21, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Hui Deng <denghui02@hotmail.com>; wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> Chairs would like to ask questions again in the list about rechartering for AD's reference due to lacking of participation.
> 
> Q1: Are you working on PVDs?
> 
> Q2: What do you think that MIF should do at this moment?
> 1) Recharter
> 2) Hiatus
> 3) Close
> 
> Q3: Do you like to work on PvDS?
> 
> Many thanks for your feedback
> 
> Cochairs.
> 
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