Re: [mif] IPR discussion on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Wed, 21 March 2012 10:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mif] IPR discussion on draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection
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Dear colleagues,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 05:01:21PM +0800, Hui Deng wrote:
>  
> We have once received IPR disclosure for draft-savolainen-mif-dns-server-selection at :
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1103/
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?option=document_search&id_document_tag=draft-ietf-mif-dns-server-selection
> Just want to know your comments on this before moveing forward,

Thanks to the chairs for bringing this to our attention.

The IPR disclosure is for the -00 draft submission.  It would be nice
to know whether Nokia (or for that matter, Microsoft, if they make IPR
claims over these tricks -- I note there isn't one filed in the
datatracker) think the draft as it currently stands is still covered.
I'll assume so.

To my chagrin, I'm not a lawyer, but the terms in that IPR filing seem
acceptable -- or anyway, no worse than the rest of the project.  (That
is, the very idea of this sort of scoping of DNS servers is hideous to
me, but I understand why to do it and can still think of no better way
than what the draft does.)  The IPR declaration is no worse than the
idea itself.

Best,

A

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Andrew Sullivan
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