Reply to Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON
"Kevin E. Jordan" <Kevin.E.Jordan@cdc.com> Mon, 07 December 1992 17:59 UTC
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To: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald.t.alvestrand@delab.sintef.no>
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Subject: Reply to Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON
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From: "Kevin E. Jordan" <Kevin.E.Jordan@cdc.com>
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> So, I suggest to keep to bilateral with Binary, and IA5 with Quoted-Printable > or Base64 as the legal encodings, bilateral preferred, IA5 admitted only > when we know the destination is not bilateral-capable. > Comments? It looks like you are suggesting that we allow either Bilateral or IA5, but make the default Bilateral. Is this correct? If more than one format is available, then there must be a mechanism defined for making the choice, and possibly a default in case the mechanism fails to produce a definite result. So, it appears that you are advocating two possible formats, with Bilateral being the default format. Erik has reminded me that an important goal of HARPOON is to define how MIME encoded in X.400 '88 is downgraded to MIME encoded in X.400 '84. Ned is arguing very strongly for preserving existing X.400 UA's and gateways such that they will continue to work somehow without having to be changed to accommodate HARPOON. The only way I see that both goals can be achieved is to specify that MIME must be encoded in '84 X.400 in exactly the way that it is encoded today by RFC987-compliant gateways. This implies that a leading IA5 body part is created to contain the initial MIME headers, and that subsequent MIME message parts are appended as text-encoded IA5 body parts. It also implies that HARPOON must be rewritten to specify that MIME encoded in '88 X.400 must be translated to the RFC987-compatible representation when downgrading to '84 X.400. Allowing both Bilateral and IA5 is impractical. Administrators and implementors will tend to do the easiest thing possible; support/implement the default choice only. Besides, if we allow both, who will define the mechanism for making the choice? Would it be necessary to add a new MTA attribute to the COSINE WEP tables? To the set of MHS-DS X.500 routing attributes? HARPOON should define exactly one of the two representations. My personal perference is the representation which uses BilaterallyDefined, but I understand and sympathize with arguments for the IA5 approach. Based upon Erik's reminder, HARPOON is needed, but the technical content of HARPOON will differ based upon whether we choose to encode MIME in BilaterallyDefined or IA5Text.
- Proposed change to HARPOON Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Erik Huizer
- Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Kevin E. Jordan
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Ned Freed
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Erik Huizer
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Jim Romaguera
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Ned Freed
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Erik Huizer
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Ned Freed
- Re: Proposed change to HARPOON Erik Huizer
- Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Kevin E. Jordan
- Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Reply to Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Kevin E. Jordan
- Reply to Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: Reply to Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Erik Huizer
- Re: Reply to Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Einar Stefferud
- Re: Reply to Reply to Proposed change to HARPOON Harald Tveit Alvestrand