Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs
"Carl S. Gutekunst" <csg@hideji.worldtalk.com> Mon, 02 May 1994 23:17 UTC
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From: "Carl S. Gutekunst" <csg@hideji.worldtalk.com>
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To: "Harald T. Alvestrand" <Harald.T.Alvestrand@uninett.no>
Cc: Steve Kille <S.Kille@isode.com>, mime-mhs@surfnet.nl
Subject: Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs
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>Basically, someone needs to decide whether: > >- The FTBP should be mapped into a single MIME entity > (application/FTPB?) on the MIME side of things, or > >- The FTBP should be one target of defined MIME<->X.400 translations, > where stuff with no defined translation simply uses application/x400-bp. The latter, emphatically, except that if the X.400->MIME gateway finds an FTBP for which it has no translation (as opposed to some other BP15), it should have a unique subtype, like application/x400-ftam, and tear apart as much of the FTAM information as possible, moving it into MIME parameters. The whole world is waiting for someone to define a nice set of application subtypes, stick labels on them, publish the list, and let implementors start using them. Ideally this would be a joint IETF and EMA effort, with the two camps agreeing on the applications that will be recognized and the raw data formats, with each camp separately defining its own labels (subtypes for MIME, OIDs for BP15) and data-independent service elements (date file was created, filename, creator, etc.). Something like this: Object MIME Type OID ---------------------- --------------------------- --------------- Postscript application/postscript 1 0 8571 100 01 Microsoft Word Windows application/ms-word-windows 1 0 8571 101 01 Microsoft Word DOS application/ms-word-dos 1 0 8571 101 02 Microsoft Word Mac application/ms-word-mac 1 0 8571 101 03 Word Perfect application/wp-wordperfect 1 0 8571 102 01 GIF image/gif 1 0 8571 200 01 JPEG image/jpeg 1 0 8571 201 01 PCX image/pcx 1 0 8571 202 01 uLaw 8Khz 8bit audio/basic 1 0 8571 301 01 WAVE audio/wave 1 0 8571 101 04 Etc. One point of dispute would be whether different versions of the same application use different subtypes/OIDs; e.g., Word Prefect 4.x vs. 5.x. I believe the original IETF ruling on this issue still applies. (That is, if the application data contains its own version code or equivalent, as most of the above do, then putting a version number in the subtype or else- where in the header is redundant and evil.) Another problem would be keeping the number of image, video, and audio subtypes under control; I claim that these should be as few as necessary to achieve interoperability, with mapping algorithms for common non-proprietary formats published. An EMA committee member told me EMA wanted to do exactly this, and that Ned Freed attended an EMA BP15 meeting, but refused to work with the EMA, stating that "we already solved this problem." From a different source, I heard that the EMA people were insisting that MIME support BP15 OIDs and ASN.1 encoding in MIME body parts, which Ned and Jon Postel flatly shot down. Either or both of these may be fabrication. Hey Ned, can you defend your honor? <csg>
- Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Steve Kille
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Harald T. Alvestrand
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Carl S. Gutekunst
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs David Herron
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Carl S. Gutekunst
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Carl S. Gutekunst
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Ned Freed
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Carl S. Gutekunst
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Ned Freed
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Charles Combs
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Ned Freed
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Keith Moore
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Carl S. Gutekunst
- Re: Update of the MIME-MHS Specs Ed Switalski