Re: [Mip6] Summary of Justification for Alternative AuthenticationOption

Gopal Dommety <gdommety@cisco.com> Fri, 24 September 2004 17:52 UTC

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Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:38:24 -0700
To: James Kempf <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
From: Gopal Dommety <gdommety@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [Mip6] Summary of Justification for Alternative AuthenticationOption
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James,


Would HA having to support both techniques be acceptable mechanism?

Thanks,
-Gopal

At 10:49 PM 9/23/2004 -0700, James Kempf wrote:
>Gopal,
>
>I believe you missed the need for some mechanism to allow an MN to determine
>which authentication technique to use. Without this, there is an
>interoperability problem, because the MN cannot infer simply from the
>failure of the signaling that it should try the other method.
>
>             jak
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Gopal Dommety" <gdommety@cisco.com>
>To: <mip6@ietf.org>
>Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:55 PM
>Subject: [Mip6] Summary of Justification for Alternative
>AuthenticationOption
>
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> >              I am attaching a summary of the discussion that took place on
> > justification of an alternate authentication mechanism.  Please let me
>know if
> > I have left out any important issue in the summary. I could have also
>mis-read
> > people opinions, so if there is a correction please let me know. I will
> > send a follow-up
> >   email with the next steps.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > -Gopal
> >
> >
> > Summary
> > =======
> >
> > The WG has been engaged in a discussion over the last week on the
> > topic of standardizing an authentication date suboption based
> > mechanism for the purpose of registering an MN with its HA via the
> > BU/BAck messages.
> > To summarize the discussion in brief:
> > 1. The I-D draft-patil-mip6-whyauthdataoption-00.txt was used as the
> >     baseline for the discussion
> > 2. Opinion was expressed that the I-D was more inclined in justifying
> >     why the use of  IKE was a problem for setting up the MN-HA IPsec SA
> >     and not really providing sufficient justifications for an
> >     alternative scheme to the use of IPsec for securing the signaling
> >     messages between the MN and HA
> > 3. There were a few people who expressed strong views of keeping IPsec
> >     as the only means for MIP6 security between MN and HA (Francis and
> > Hesham (?))
> > 4. There were others who claimed the need for an alternate option to
> >     MIP6 including one operator who plans to deploy the protocol in
> >     their network (Raj, James Kempf, Alpesh, Gopal, Kuntal, Vijay, Michael
>Roe)
> > 5. There was also a note from an implementers perspective on the
> >     challenges of integrating MIP6 with IPsec (Michael Roe)
> > 6. There was discussion about the problem of replay attacks and the
> >     need for key refreshment
> > 7. IKEv2 is expected to provide a solution to the problem of setting
> >     up dynamic SAs in networks that rely on AAA infrastructures. While
> >     IKEv2 itself has been approved, the details of how IKEv2 is used
> >     with MIP6 are still being worked out in an I-D that is not ready
> >     yet.
> > 8. There was an opinion that the bootstrap work being done in the WG
> >     would address the needs of the environment claimed in I-D
> >     draft-patil-mip6-whyauthdataoption-00.txt
> >
> >
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