Re: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e-06]
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Hi Vijay, Heejin, Regarding the removal of references to 802.21 due that being too SDO specific, .21 is developed by the IEEE 802 LMSC just as .16e is. It is the same SDO, so the reference to .16e and .21 stand on equal footing. In Section 4, the MN is described as using native .16 L2 mechanisms for network topology discovery. Although not specifically designed to facilitate intra .16 handover, 802.21 also provides a service that can provide the topology. The service (information service query) is a MN 'pull', so is not subject to the particular DoS attack mentioned in other reviews. In Section 5, the adjective 'close'is used in reference to the use of 802.21, FMIPv6 and 802.16e. Since both 802.21 and FMIPv6 provide link independent interfaces and services, this characterization can give the wrong impression. In general MIP acceleration techniques and .21 services have at times been mis-labeled as 'close' when they achieve the performance gains while providing standardized link independent interfaces and services. In Section 5.1, a review was concerned about the possibility of an attacker triggering a flood of link detected events from the 802.21 implementation. This kind of attack will cause the MN to indicated some kind of signal upward from the L2 implementation if the MN is listening for these .16 messages. When .21 is being used, the link event is 'consumed' or 'interpreted' and presented upward in a media independent fashion. It is possible (probably typical) for a .21 implementation to have information that could help mitigate this attack. In suchi mplementations, the MIHF would receive the link event from the .16e L2, but deliver selected events upwards to FMIPv6. In Section 5.2, the scenario does not include network initiated HO as a possibility. Is it within the possible use cases to discuss such an option? Thanks for taking on this work. We really need these solutions to be clear. Best Regards, Michael >-----Original Message----- >From: mipshop-bounces@ietf.org >[mailto:mipshop-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Vijay Devarapalli >Sent: 26 February, 2008 16:36 >To: 'Mipshop' >Subject: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e-06] > >FYI. > >I forwarded a bunch of comments that we got as a result of the >IETF last call on draft-ietf-mipshop-fh80216e-06. Heejin has >been addressing those comments and revising the draft. If >anyone has comments on the changes being made, now would be a >good time to speak up. > >Vijay > _______________________________________________ Mipshop mailing list Mipshop@ietf.org http://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mipshop
- [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipshop-f… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipsh… Michael.G.Williams
- Re: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipsh… Heejin Jang
- Re: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipsh… Michael.G.Williams
- Re: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipsh… Vijay Devarapalli
- Re: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipsh… Rajeev Koodli
- Re: [Mipshop] [Fwd: Re: Comments draft-ietf-mipsh… Heejin Jang
- Re: [Mipshop] WG last call on MIH solution docume… Noll, Kevin
- Re: [Mipshop] WG last call on MIH solutiondocumen… Telemaco Melia (tmelia)