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Re: [MLS] MLS Interim 27-28 September 2018: minutes

Nadim Kobeissi <nadim@symbolic.software> Fri, 12 October 2018 18:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MLS] MLS Interim 27-28 September 2018: minutes
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Thanks for the minutes.

It’s a shame that the discussion regarding whether the current focus message protection gives to per-message forward secrecy was glossed over in the minutes like this. I remember making an effort to convincingly illustrate exactly how this isn’t worth it given how many keys will need to be stored locally.

Having epoch-level forward secrecy will result in simpler specs, stronger efficiency and reliability without a real compromise in real-word forward secrecy in the event of device compromise.

There are also some implementation-level discussions that seem to be completely missing.

Nadim Kobeissi
Symbolic Software • https://symbolic.software
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> On Oct 11, 2018, at 5:39 PM, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
> 
> The minutes are now up at:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mls/meetings/
> and in the gh repo:
> https://github.com/mlswg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-2018-09/minutes.md
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> spt
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