Re: [MLS] May 2019 Interim Registration and Issue discussion

Nick Sullivan <nick@cloudflare.com> Thu, 16 May 2019 05:35 UTC

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Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 07:35:38 +0200
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Subject: Re: [MLS] May 2019 Interim Registration and Issue discussion
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As a reminder, here are the meeting details:
https://github.com/mlswg/wg-materials/blob/master/interim-2019-05/README.md

For remote attendance, we’ll be setting up WebEx:

Topic: MLS Interim: 16 May 2019
Date: Monday, January 16, 2019
Time: 9:00 am | Central Europead Summer Time (Berlin, GMT+02:00) | 8 hrs
Meeting link:
https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=md546be15e628910271eed585d1ad8567
Meeting number (access code): 648 186 985
Meeting password: ftw!

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 1:36 PM Raphael Robert <raphael=
40wire.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> The address of the venue where the interim will be held is the following:
>
> Happy Pigeons GmbH
> Erich-Weinert-Straße 78
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Erich-Weinert-Stra%C3%9Fe+78+10439+Berlin&entry=gmail&source=g>
> 10439 Berlin
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Erich-Weinert-Stra%C3%9Fe+78+10439+Berlin&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Doors will be open at 9am.
>
> Thanks
>
> Raphael
>
> On 9 May 2019, at 19:41, Nick Sullivan <
> nick=40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Registration for the interim is closed, but not everyone who expressed an
> interest has registered. If you previously expressed interest in attending
> either in person or remotely, please register by tomorrow (May 10th). The
> preliminary agenda will be published by the end of the week.
>
> Nick & Sean
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:50 AM Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:
>
>> Couple of notes on plans for the protocol document:
>>
>> As Nick notes, we are hoping to publish draft-05 of the protocol document
>> before the interim.  I have marked a handful of PRs for inclusion in that
>> release:
>>
>> https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/milestone/2
>>
>> If folks could review those PRs ASAP, that would be helpful, as we will
>> be working to get a few major things merged next week.  Thanks to Joël
>> Alwen and Michael Rosenberg for reviews so far.
>>
>> In general, my thinking is that draft-05 will be a "feature release" and
>> draft-06 will be a "performance relase", in the following sense: In
>> draft-05, we're getting in a lot of the big changes to the security model
>> (tree hashing, common signing/encryption).  We'll try to keep these things
>> stable for a bit, to let some analysis get done.  While that's going on, we
>> can focus on issues that relate more to performance / scalability /
>> maintainability, such as server assist, server-initiated add/remove, or KDF
>> trees for application secrets..  I've already put a few issues / PRs into
>> the draft-06 milestone:
>>
>> https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/milestone/3
>>
>> --Richard
>>
>
>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 1:38 PM Nick Sullivan <nick=
>> 40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf.org <40cloudflare.com@dmarc.ietf..org>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The date and location are set for the May 2019 Interim meeting. It will
>>> be on May 16 at the Wire headquarters in Berlin. More details can be found
>>> on Github:
>>> https://github.com/mlswg/wg-materials/tree/master/interim-2019-05.
>>>
>>> Please register with the following form if you intend on attending
>>> either remotely or in person.
>>> Registration Link <https://forms.gle/8vK6ZKSrFzgX6KTr8> (
>>> https://forms.gle/8vK6ZKSrFzgX6KTr8)
>>>
>>> Registration deadline closes on May 2nd.
>>>
>>> We are soliciting proposals for presentations to add to the agenda for
>>> the meeting. Please send proposals to mls-chairs@ietf.org. Due to time
>>> limitations, these should be restricted to discussions about current active
>>> drafts.
>>>
>>> Here are the active documents:
>>> *Protocol* (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mls-protocol-04)
>>> Issues: https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/issues
>>> Milestones: https://github..com/mlswg/mls-protocol/milestones
>>> <https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/milestones>
>>>
>>> *Architecture* (
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mls-architecture-02)
>>> Issues: https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture
>>>
>>> *Federation* (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-omara-mls-federation-00)
>>> Issues: https://github.com/mlswg/mls-federation/issues
>>>
>>>
>>> As a reminder for the working group, the target milestone for the -05
>>> draft of the protocol document is May 1st, 2019. There are still a number
>>> of open issues that should be discussed here:
>>> https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/milestone/2. We encourage the
>>> authors and other participants to read these issues, distill the main
>>> questions raised by them and propose answers for discussion on the list in
>>> the coming week.
>>>
>>>
>>> Nick and Sean
>>>
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