Re: [MLS] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-mls-architecture-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 05 March 2024 21:30 UTC
Return-Path: <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71703C14F708; Tue, 5 Mar 2024 13:30:01 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.104
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.104 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KR6cN-sNky1K; Tue, 5 Mar 2024 13:30:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-pf1-x436.google.com (mail-pf1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::436]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0A13C14F695; Tue, 5 Mar 2024 13:30:00 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-pf1-x436.google.com with SMTP id d2e1a72fcca58-6e627596554so1981894b3a.2; Tue, 05 Mar 2024 13:30:00 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1709674200; x=1710279000; darn=ietf.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=gN30YzF8nRR/rnVJa0bycelG5fhafd0V0chxj1PwZ40=; b=Erp+5x/QQTN5U5ZM1JOfqVq4v+5PPUFXXgTDwGuI9u5L2d6ad+/cnwen+l+Wg7CoiI vbknP1+8kBANQGb4W1AqhqsL40DWLToXww3iIERsrOmHyzufIRQ7UM5T54axkXrfdK55 Th62YGmszDKPGFQN3AMZHKVoY9K4ct2ncae4/q/Hrr/DhH7qT8d2SBOEPaNa+Oe9y68A bN2hVr+IRRcy7LR2FUc/jt5POEf+NrRhzLiusr3xQsWNTGS1fjMLylYi7/SlPjOpmus0 oSZocseh40ppWoROrrwatSPDZAnNU8FPiUeHlTLK8TkzL7CgekzLBE2LXnDnW18YCgeC aYPQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1709674200; x=1710279000; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=gN30YzF8nRR/rnVJa0bycelG5fhafd0V0chxj1PwZ40=; b=Qbx1y1SU4YW59hjUhWJmbFHMZp1Lwc9iC8dWLvr+9HkWqkRQEGQ4hiv4u/ki3LVl2e 8fZvypuFMJQSOoUvn7oeR7/OBkMLEkozIABqnQSd2PUt+yi0wy89kjyeyZeb3xjpkLFy TGrHgaeBfHpreYXYdekNARtL8pr3233MqlGNo5TJLksqEDDUqLPyureCcBDjX2+JsdWl KyOK2O7XtuTJ+TPQIsVZW2moZmOpdKMvX1HYNdgzjx8mkY7cahMTV5Vdwrehr5gBBO8H BF5SwsL81mqL5pNTUgs4khDgMllmSB/MRfMwPE2NH2Pf3NPDGkMC4Io0Q0UcJn4n1LAD sNbQ==
X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUhm6S3WJodTayQOkVzZc5ccT3X+50N+woBCFJYD5FiSdfyY3CUT8vhwFRa5zzSXFFDqxTxzXwDdPJe0CuKWTiNn+4R/VAiaW/YDd+k/R4MJCcaypTbabK9znCLiKpbyGAL7YdaxW8pNBptZ6GHfR4c7L2SNV3T25icUb2X2pcdFcrtpnOJ2Q==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yxx64kO57Mv+vV+tghHkBZLTBk82vpLgKBqCIfgLpQ1K3bJr3ae h2tH6/uXuKnxyMwR2MyAbY8H6fk5AOZF9Pz97ftbWgiOWTiGSTvvsiHKi8V9S5jmNrgfxbmemEC rKNHzOxp7FQ/qAOlAUvIIQSsD4So=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGeNoqr+zMURVxthy5fZMOTOvRd8tUP5n3KbXEn6q15OzMWobjYGmKcAXBdU9EsMbRb48iZhw6uStr0TQRfN7s=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:2386:b0:6e5:803e:ee3d with SMTP id f6-20020a056a00238600b006e5803eee3dmr15914145pfc.33.1709674199994; Tue, 05 Mar 2024 13:29:59 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <167526814780.57497.12216144050751364538@ietfa.amsl.com> <F8E4C8D2-86A8-4BA1-B756-F37F75E7E1AE@sn3rd.com>
In-Reply-To: <F8E4C8D2-86A8-4BA1-B756-F37F75E7E1AE@sn3rd.com>
From: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <zahed.sarker.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 22:29:49 +0100
Message-ID: <CAEh=tcdoE02nh98Av86Nji1PudRvNdYdWqw1kDk=7B7=i2Hx2w@mail.gmail.com>
To: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
Cc: Zaheduzzaman Sarker <Zaheduzzaman.Sarker@ericsson.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-mls-architecture@ietf.org, MLS Chairs <mls-chairs@ietf.org>, MLS List <mls@ietf.org>, Katriel Cohn-Gordon <me@katriel.co.uk>, cas.cremers@cs.ox.ac.uk, thyla.van.der@merwe.tech, jmillican@fb.com, Raphael Robert <raphael@wire.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005f5aed0612f08b15"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mls/cebmrylG6JKTZRs8iD1VUPZ_-nw>
X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 06 Mar 2024 08:16:47 -0800
Subject: Re: [MLS] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf-mls-architecture-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: Messaging Layer Security <mls.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mls>, <mailto:mls-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mls/>
List-Post: <mailto:mls@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls>, <mailto:mls-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2024 21:30:01 -0000
Hi Sean, Thanks for the ping. As I didn't receive any reply to my comments or discuss, I was not aware of the plans and resolutions. I will have a look, however, if you can point me on how my discussion point is addressed it will help me to do a fast response. //Zahed On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 8:42 PM Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote: > Zahed, > > Hi! A new version has dropped (actually I think two since your ballot > position was entered) and I was hoping you could take a quick peek to see > if this version addresses you discuss points; one at least is addressed as > Roman has withdrawn his DISCUSS. > > Cheers, > spt > > > On Feb 1, 2023, at 11:15, Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker < > noreply@ietf.org> wrote: > > > > Zaheduzzaman Sarker has entered the following ballot position for > > draft-ietf-mls-architecture-10: Discuss > > > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > > introductory paragraph, however.) > > > > > > Please refer to > https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ > > for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > > > > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mls-architecture/ > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > DISCUSS: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Thanks for working on this specification. > > > > After reading section 7, I would like to discuss why there is no explicit > > recommendation of using secure transport for MLS. This section and > subsections > > point out various strong opinions to use secure transport. I there is any > > particular reason to support secure transport protocol then it should be > > mentioned. I kind of feel that the work "transport" here does not really > only > > refer to Layer 4 transport protocols, needs some clarification. > > > > I also support Roman's discuss that the recommendation on section > 7.4.3.2 and > > section 7.1.2 are countering each other. > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > COMMENT: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > - It took time for me to understand that the recommendation in section > 7.1.4 > > refers to different set of transport protocols than those examples > mentioned in > > beginning of section 7.1 :-), yes, I did not took the "unidirectional" > word > > seriously. However, I think some clarification and/or reference to some > FEC > > scheme for unidirectional transport here would be good. > > > > > > > >
- [MLS] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-ietf… Zaheduzzaman Sarker via Datatracker
- Re: [MLS] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-… Sean Turner
- Re: [MLS] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker
- Re: [MLS] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-… Sean Turner
- Re: [MLS] Zaheduzzaman Sarker's Discuss on draft-… Zaheduzzaman Sarker