Re: [MLS] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on draft-ietf-mls-protocol-17: (with COMMENT)

[Rohan Mahy <[e-mail]>]

Some IESG comments have asked how much implementation experience we have on
MLS. In addition to what Richard said on the subject, Wire released a basic
MLS implementation (based on OpenMLS) of our on-prem messaging suite
(including multi-domain federation) for wire-server, Web/desktop, and iOS
in November. Our Android basic MLS implementation will be released this
month. All of our code is open source at https://github.com/wireapp .
Anyone in the IETF community should feel free to reach out to me with
questions about our MLS implementation.
Thanks,
-rohan

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Richard Barnes wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 4:10 AM Éric Vyncke via Datatracker <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> ### Implementation of complex protocol
>>
>> Based on my affiliation, I obviously know about one implementation (unsure
>> whether it is a project or it is deployed). It would be nice to know
>> whether
>> there are other implementations of this protocol, which looks quite
>> complex to
>> implement.
>>
>
> There are two services running draft versions of MLS in production, Webex
> and RingCentral.  Wire, Wickr, and Matrix have all been active contributors
> to the protocol, so one might presume they are looking at using it.  We are
> actively working on interop testing among five actively-developed
> implementations (#mls-interop on ietf.slack.com in case anyone is
> interested).
>
> Some links in case you're interested:
>
> List of implementations:
> https://github.com/mlswg/mls-implementations/blob/main/implementation_list.md
> Matrix's scalability testing: http://arewemlsyet.com/
> Webex whitepaper on MLS-based E2E encryption:
> https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solutions/collateral/collaboration/white-paper-c11-744553.html
>