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Re: [MLS] Éric Vyncke's No Objection on charter-ietf-mls-01-00: (with COMMENT)

"Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com> Thu, 04 January 2024 16:15 UTC

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com>
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Sean,

What a suspense ! __

More seriously, I understand that the MLS WG participants want to keep the history of their achievements [1], but will the new charter text be useful for potential new participants? Anyway, it was just a suggestion.

-éric

[1] the mls-archicture document has lingered in the revised ID state for nearly one year...

On 04/01/2024, 16:16, "Sean Turner" <sean@sn3rd.com <mailto:sean@sn3rd.com>> wrote:






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> To be honest, I was about to ballot a BLOCK based on the absence of intended
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Sorry I kept you in suspense there until the very end!


> May I also suggest to reduce the leading part of the charter about the history
> and achievements of the MLS WG?


This whole charter change could boil down to “And now, we are going to do some extensions” :). During discussions the WG seems happy (or at least ambivalent) about the amount of pre-amble. Since I never like surprising the IESG, I (I suggested the first draft of the text) opted to follow the approach of change as little as possible so then they can’t object to it; hence, I deleted one lengthy paragraph and changed the tense on some verbs.


What the WG participants really cared about (rightly so) was whether their extension was either in the list or was at least agreed to be in the scope of the list.


Cheers,
spt

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