Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc5245bis-00.txt

Emil Ivov <emcho@jitsi.org> Mon, 15 July 2013 18:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc5245bis-00.txt
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Very minor comment:

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> We've submitted the ICE drafts as WG documents, as agreed at the previous
> meeting. They also address the issues that were discussed during the meeting
> and/or on the list:
> - clarified the use of short term credentials in connectivity checks
> - not using deprecated IPv6 addresses or loop back addresses for candidates

Wouldn't it make sense to allow pairing loopback addresses with other
loopback addresses? The main use case that comes to mind is debug
sessions where both the transmitter and the receiver are on the same
host?

Emil

> - pairing IPv6 link-locals only with link-locals (wrt ULAs still more
> thinking and discussion is needed)
> - ICE options for both session and media level
> (draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-sip-sdp-00)
>
>
> Cheers,
> Ari
>
>
> On 7/15/13 7:48 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>   This draft is a work item of the Multiparty Multimedia Session Control
>> Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>>         Title           : Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE): A
>> Protocol for Network Address Translator (NAT) Traversal for Offer/Answer
>> Protocols
>>         Author(s)       : Ari Keranen
>>                            Jonathan Rosenberg
>>         Filename        : draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc5245bis-00.txt
>>         Pages           : 89
>>         Date            : 2013-07-15
>>
>> Abstract:
>>     This document describes a protocol for Network Address Translator
>>     (NAT) traversal for UDP-based multimedia sessions established with
>>     the offer/answer model.  This protocol is called Interactive
>>     Connectivity Establishment (ICE).  ICE makes use of the Session
>>     Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) protocol and its extension,
>>     Traversal Using Relay NAT (TURN).  ICE can be used by any protocol
>>     utilizing the offer/answer model, such as the Session Initiation
>>     Protocol (SIP).
>>
>>     This document obsoletes RFC 5245.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc5245bis
>>
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc5245bis-00
>>
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>
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