Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE WGLC: Default candidate for bundle-only m- line with zero port value?

Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Thu, 06 November 2014 19:49 UTC

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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 11:49:20 -0800
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE WGLC: Default candidate for bundle-only m- line with zero port value?
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I don't think you need an ICE candidate for a m= line with a zero port
value. We already covered something similar for trickle ICE (i.e. the dummy
ports).

On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:43 AM, Christer Holmberg <
christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

>  Hi,
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> One question that has been raised by Thomas Stach during the BUNDLE WGLC,
> is regarding ICE candidates and bundle-only m- lines with a zero port value.
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> The current text says that identical ICE candidate values are assigned to
> bundle-only m- lines.
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> Now, in the case where a zero port value is assigned to a bundle-only m-
> lines, it means that a candidate with a zero port value is also needed (in
> order to fulfil the ICE rules for default candidates).
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> IF we want to avoid that, a couple of alternatives have been presented:
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> 1)      Do not assign ICE candidates to bundle-only m- lines with port
> zero. The problem is that the answerer, even if it supports
> BUNDLE/bundle-only, doesn’t know whether the offerer wants to use ICE for
> those m- lines; or
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> 2)      Relax the 5245 rules, so that there doesn’t need to be a
> candidate matching the m- line port value.
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> Comments?
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> Regards,
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> Christer
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