[MMUSIC] RID negotiation enhancements
Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> Mon, 02 November 2015 05:24 UTC
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Subject: [MMUSIC] RID negotiation enhancements
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In the MMUSIC meeting today, I brought up two proposed enhancements to the parameter extensibility mechanism. I will mention the first one only in passing, as it did not receive any support in the room (and several people spoke out in opposition to it). It generally floated the idea of "soft constraints" that the offerer proposes, but doesn't want the RID to be removed if they cannot be honored (for whatever reason). If this sounds compelling to you, read the concrete proposal in the MMUSIC slides and comment on it. Given the feedback at the meeting, I do not The second proposed enhancement was to treat constraints in the send direction differently than those in the receive direction. It has been observed that it should not matter if the answerer doesn’t understand a constraint on a stream that it will receive. If the stream is being constrained in a way it doesn’t understand, why should it care? Based on this, it would seem to make sense to have the answerer simply remove unsupported parameters from any received “a=rid:x send” lines (i.e. for streams the answerer will be receiving). This makes the rules different based on whether the line is “send” or “recv” So, for example, if an offer contains: a=rid:1 recv max-br=64000;max-goats=72 a=rid:2 recv max-br=64000 a=rid:3 recv max-br=32000;max-goats=16 a=rid:4 recv max-br=32000 a=simulcast:recv rid=1,2;3,4 The the answerer, who doesn’t understand max-goats, would respond: a=rid:2 send max-br=64000 a=rid:4 send max-br=32000 a=simulcast:send rid=2;4 That's consistent with what's in the current document. If we simply reverse the direction of the streams, we get different behavior: Offer: a=rid:1 send max-br=64000;max-goats=72 a=rid:2 send max-br=64000 a=rid:3 send max-br=32000;max-goats=16 a=rid:4 send max-br=32000 a=simulcast:send rid=1,2;3,4 The answer omits the constraints that it doesn't understand, but keeps the RID lines: a=rid:1 recv max-br=64000 a=rid:2 recv max-br=64000 a=rid:3 recv max-br=32000 a=rid:4 recv max-br=32000 a=simulcast:recv rid=1,2;3,4 [In practice, the offerer wouldn't actually do this -- it would only offer rids 1 and 3; I only include 2 and 4 in the example to show the difference in behavior between the two directions] We didn't discuss this, but it seems like a no-brainer. Does anyone have a concrete reason we *shouldn't* change the processing rules to behave this way? /a
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