[MMUSIC] Replay in RTSP?
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From: Josip Bodružić <josip.bodruzic@outlook.com>
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Hi, I realized that, for example, YouTube Music's replay button doesn't work in the "replay" manner. What I mean is that usually, once the song has finished playing, you must press replay and then back to have a song start playing from the beginning. It happens after a couple of seconds after the song has ended. If the song is replayed by the same button immediately after the song has finished it works like a charm. I'm curious so I started looking at RTSP's RFC. By searching for "replay" in the RFC I get one hit, and there you talk about a security issue, so called replay attacks on the media stream. So, my question is: is security the reason why you don't have a replay feature as a part of the protocol? Sincerely, Josip Bodružić P.S. I can't believe that Google can't program a replay functionality, or they did but I don't know what replay is...
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