Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-49: (with COMMENT)
Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Thu, 19 April 2018 09:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusic-sdp-bundle-negotiation-49: (with COMMENT)
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On Apr 18, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: >> This doesn't answer my question. Who, specifically, thinks that this terminology >> of focusing on the address:port and not the m= section is good? > > Considering that the focus has been on the address and port since day one, for 7 years, I think it is good. After all, while there is more to it than the address:port, the main reason for BUNDLE is to be able to multiplex in a single address:port. > > Now, we HAVE discussed changing "address:port" to "transport", but it would still not be about the m= section. > >>> Having said that, if we can change it with a search/replace operation I am >>> happy to discuss it. I THINK we could do that e.g., with "transport" or >>> "3-tuple". >>> >>> But I don¹t want to make yet another re-write of the document just to once >>> again change the terminology. >> >> This document is going to be used by a lot of people. It's important that it be >> clear. > > I fully agree. But, I am not sure that endless re-writings the document is going to achieve that. I think this has turned into an argument about style. One usage may be more pleasing to the “ear” than the other, but I don’t see issues of technical correctness or clarity here. As I asked for the the “associated with” question, is anyone arguing that the word choice here is likely to cause material implementation errors? Ben.
- [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusic-sd… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Ben Campbell
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Ben Campbell
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [MMUSIC] Adam Roach's Yes on draft-ietf-mmusi… Christer Holmberg