[MMUSIC] RE: IMG Reqs & FW v01 Internet-drafts: review please!

[Evain Jean-Pierre <[e-mail]>]

Rod,

Time is probably pressing but I think there is a need to consider all these
issues carefully all the more so as many parties are interested in not
destabilising the effort spent in DVB and in TV-Anytime.

DVB has adopted TV-Anytime that is now an ETSI standard. TV-Anytime is a
cornerstone of many DVB developments including most recently in DVB IPTV.
Reasonable effort was spent through cross-membership harmonising between TVA
and DVB IPI and more discussion is foreseen on metadata.  This is without
saying that we keep on eye on DVB UMTS that Nokia is necessarily aware of.


We are interested in ensuring that MMUSIC does a good job and we shall
certainly collaborate in a positive spirit.

As I mentioned, we shall come back to you with comments in diverse form,
from individuals and most likely from the TVA Forum itself.  Whether the
bursts will be small or large remains to be decided by those who will
contribute.

It seems that mid-January is okay and we shall be ready on time.

I would encourage you to turn up at the TV-Anytime January (13-16) meeting
in Geneva, which is a lucky location when considering who might potentially
be involved and the deadlines.
DVB IPI is meeting in Geneva on 13-14 January. It would therefore seem that
a joint meeting could take place on the 13 in the afternoon on on the 14th.
I am currently trying to get an answer from DVB IPI, whose Chairman is
directly involved in TV-Anytime.

Short joint meetings are certainly more productive than long e-mails.

Best regards,

Jean-Pierre







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Subject: RE: IMG Reqs & FW v01 Internet-drafts: review please!


Hi Jean-Pierre

All contributions and reviews are welcome, and everything constructive (with
an idea of how to make progress) is great regarless whetehr the critisism is
positive or negative.

The best way to contribute is in small bursts as several small ideas can be
dealt with progressively and a single large batch of feedabck is bound to
introduce some latency and risk missing some of the quieter points.
Individual and organizational are fine, but it is important that the people
emailing the comments are prepared to partcipate in the discussion (i.e.
understand the issues or in close proximity to the experts who do) - this is
also a good reason for reviews in short bursts as you can spread the
"competence burden".

The dead line is "as soon as possible". I personally hope we will last call
(solicit final reviews) very soon and close this before the end of January.
If there are convincing arguments that additional valuable input will not
arrive until February we can talk about a second last call if the points
were not addressed in the first. (i.e. the dead-line is mid/end-January, but
serious requests for time to add details to comments will probably be treat
with enthusiasm and accomodation). (Note, a last call is initiated where the
authors and chairs feel the documents are ready, however a decision to ask
the IESG to consider for RFC publication often follows more than one last
call).

The MMUSIC chairs orchestrate this process so: Colin & Joerg, did that sound
about right?

Joerg has talked with IPI, as well as Toni Paila (one of my collegaues) (at
this point I have no idea whether I would be available for MMUSIC input into
an TVA+IPI meeting - depends on timing and location). Let's follow up on
this.

Cheers and MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
Rod.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Evain Jean-Pierre [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 3:11 PM
> To: Walsh Rod (NRC/Tampere); [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; Evain Jean-Pierre
> Subject: RE: IMG Reqs & FW v01 Internet-drafts: review please!
> 
> 
> Dear Rod,
> 
> Thank-you for sharing the information.
> 
> I received your mail and read the documents with interest.
> 
> As you know, I am particularly involved in TV-Anytime but
> also in DVB and
> was considering all this from a broadcaster perspective.
> 
> I do not have time to go into the details right now but it seems that 
> TV-Anytime and / or its members would like to comment.  I am therefore 
> going to forward this to the TV-Anytime community.
> 
> There are two types of contributions that you can certainly expect:
> 
> - technical contributions
> - generic contributions like e.g. on section 6.1 of the IMG
> framework where
> there is room for improvement of your vision of what 
> TV-Anytime has done, is
> doing now, and its relationship to MPEG-7 (e.g. the 
> TV-Anytime spec isn't
> based on MPEG-7 but shares a few schemas with MPEG-7 on user 
> description
> metadata).
> 
> These contributions can be envisaged in two ways:
> 
> - contributions from individuals experts
> - contribution from TV-Anytime as a Forum
> 
> What I need to know is the deadline.  Until when do we have
> to make these
> comments?  For your information, TV-Anytime is meeting during 
> the second
> week of January in Geneva.  I am also trying to organise a 
> joint meeting
> with DVB IPI during this period.
> 
> Can you wait until then?
> 
> Woudl someone from MMUSIC be able to join?
> 
> Please let me know...
> 
> All the best for 2004!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jean-Pierre Evain
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
> Sent: jeudi, 18. décembre 2003 08:35
> To: [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: IMG Reqs & FW v01 Internet-drafts: review please!
> 
> 
> Hello All
> 
> The specifications on IMG requirements and framework are now
> in pretty good
> shape.
> 
> These provide a solid basis on which to design a better-than-SAP 
> announcement protocol, enable a diverse mix of description formats 
> (SDP, MPEG7, etc), and personalise reception through filtering,
> subscription and
> request.
> 
> There are a few open issues with what are the next steps so everyone's 
> comments on these are very useful! The URLs to each document are:
> 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mmusic-img-req-01.txt
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mmusic-img-fram
ework-01.txt

As discussed in Minneapolis (IETF Meeting 58) and before, we want to do a
final public review before freezing these very soon so we would be delighted
to get detailed review now (pre-working group last call). Private emails are
welcome, though we'd like to encourage public review via the MMUSIC mailing
list.

We are looking forward to your ideas and comments. Thank you in advance!

Best regards,
Rod Walsh and all the IMG authors.

IMG = Internet Media Guides = framework for media/Internet_content discovery
and more...



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