[MMUSIC] RE: Test FLUTE for Service/Session Announcement for Multicast Apps
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Hi Sami Could you describe the main features of the announcement protocol you're developing please? (and a comparison with SAP would be helpful) Cheers, Rod. > -----Original Message----- > From: ext Sami Peltotalo [mailto:sami.peltotalo@tut.fi] > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:40 AM > To: Mmusic > Subject: Test FLUTE for Service/Session Announcement for > Multicast Apps > > > Hi all, > > Does anyone want to transport multicast session announcements > with another > protocol than SAP? > I have used FLUTE for this purpose. You can also test how it > works with an > open source implementation, > see http://www.atm.tut.fi/mad. > > Cheers, Sami > > ps. (there is a short discussion below about this topic) > > > > > Hi, > > > > I am currently working with topic, which handles service and > > session announcements for multicast applications. SAP/SDP doesn't > > suit very well for describing services, which could be > > categorized to different groups, for example sports, news etc. So > > that the receiver could build some kind of service hierarchy from > > the announcements, and the user is able to browse the services > > from categories he or she is interested. At least I have chosen > > another protocols than SAP/SDP in my work. RMT working group's > > FLUTE protocol seems to be very good choise for the transmission > > of service descriptions, so I am using it. I can't use SAP > > because it has limited payload size and payload can't be > > segmented to different packets (my service and session > > descriptions are much larger than for example one SDP > > description). I am using XML in my service and session > > descriptions so it was nice to notice that SDPng has now again > > XML-Schema. Has anyone else considered to use FLUTE for > > transmission of session announcements? > > > > Cheers, Sami > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a problem with a new and better announcement > > > protocol than SAP? > > > > > > We need a few things which SAP doesn't handle too well, which is > > > one of the things covered by the Internet Media Guide effort in > > > MMUSIC: > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-mmusic-img-req-00.txt > > > > I guess anyone involved in applications/services over multicast > > could be interested, especially where point-to-point isn't desirable. > > > > I wanted to get an idea of any strong opinions before I stick out > > head and propose a real protocol task for MMUSIC next month. > > > > Cheers, Rod. > > _______________________________________________ mmusic mailing list mmusic@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
- [MMUSIC] RE: Test FLUTE for Service/Session Annou… Rod.Walsh
- Re: [MMUSIC] Test FLUTE for Service/Session Annou… philippe.gentric
- RE: [MMUSIC] Test FLUTE for Service/Session Annou… Sami Peltotalo
- RE: [MMUSIC] RE: Test FLUTE for Service/Session A… Sami Peltotalo
- Re: [MMUSIC] RE: Test FLUTE for Service/Session A… Stig Venaas
- RE: [MMUSIC] RE: Test FLUTE for Service/Session A… Rod.Walsh
- RE: [MMUSIC] Test FLUTE for Service/Session Annou… Rod.Walsh
- RE: [MMUSIC] Test FLUTE for Service/Session Annou… philippe.gentric