Re: [MMUSIC] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-msid-14: (with DISCUSS)

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Thu, 16 June 2016 14:20 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Stephen Farrell's Discuss on draft-ietf-mmusic-msid-14: (with DISCUSS)
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> On Jun 16, 2016, at 4:39 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
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> I'm not sure that the answer to this question will require any
> change to the document but wanted to check... 
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> I wondered about the privacy properties of these (and related)
> WebRTC identifiers, esp. if they are being handled at various
> different layers. Is there work somewhere in the WebRTC space
> that's analysing that? For example, one concern might be that
> msid-appdata could end up with some kind of privacy sensitive
> value, but there's no guidance here about that and as the
> examples use UUIDs it's not clear to me those represent nor what
> typical values will be used. (Note: I'm not saying that I
> believe this is a problem, I'm just checking if it's been
> considered.)

I wonder if adding a reference to https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-streams/#dom-mediastream-id <https://www.w3.org/TR/mediacapture-streams/#dom-mediastream-id> or parroting that guidance would help.

Alissa

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> I hope that there's no reason why these can't be very ephemeral
> values that don't identify (or help re-identification of) people
> or their preferences, locations etc., and I'd imagine there's
> little reason to e.g. log them. If that's the case wouldn't it
> be useful to add such guidance (somewhere, maybe not here)
> to help developers to do the right thing?
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