Re: [MMUSIC] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-12: (with COMMENT)

Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Tue, 07 April 2020 06:53 UTC

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Barry Leiba's No Objection on draft-ietf-mmusic-t140-usage-data-channel-12: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Barry,

Thank You for the review! Please see inline.
  
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COMMENT:
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>    Thanks for this document.  I have just one comment about BCP 14 key words that
>    I don’t think has come up elsewhere:
>    
>    — Section 5.3 —
>    
>       It is RECOMMENDED to use the
>       default transmission interval of 300 milliseconds [RFC4103], for
>       T.140 data channels.  Implementers MAY also use lower values, for
>       specific applications requiring low latency, taking the increased
>       overhead in consideration.
>    
>    Given the “RECOMMENDED” in the first sentence, I don’t think the second
>    sentence is really a BCP 10 “MAY”, but should be “may” (or “might”). 

I will s/MAY/might.

> Actually, I think I would also remove the first comma, as, “Implementers might use lower
> values for specific applications requiring low latency, taking the increased overhead in consideration.”
  
I will remove the first comma as suggested.

Regards,

Christer