Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes
Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Tue, 05 April 2016 02:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes
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On 3/29/16 1:48 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > On 3/29/16 1:28 AM, Christian Groves wrote: >> Hello Paul, >> >> Please see below. >> >> Regards, Christian >> >> On 24/03/2016 8:59 AM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: >>> On 3/22/16 3:11 PM, Flemming Andreasen wrote: >>> >>>> Do we have a volunteer to drive the discussion there ? >>> >>> OK. I'll volunteer. >>> >>> The starting point for this discussion is the current text of section >>> 8.2.4 of rfc4566bis-16. >>> >>> Looking at that, one thing leaps out at me: >>> >>> There is a long list of "stuff" that must be provided when defining a >>> new attribute. IMO it is all *good* stuff, that should be provided. >>> But it also strikes me that it will be difficult for IANA to evaluate >>> the adequacy of this stuff itself. So we might want to require an >>> expert review as a gate to registration. >> [CNG] What's the role of the SDP directorate in relation to this? I >> guess they would check any RFC defined attributes but that non-RFCs >> would also need to be checked? How much of this should be visible on the >> IANA registry page? > > The SDP directorate will only be invoked for ietf documents. The > policy for attributes is Specification Required, so it might be a > document from another SDO, ore even no SDO. In those cases there would > be no SDP directorate review. > > After refreshing my memory about the definition of Specification > Required, I see that it implies Expert Review. (Flemming is currently > listed as the expert.) Right - I'm currently the designated expert and hence review all external registration requests (i.e. from outside IETF). > That may be good enough, though we might want to beef up the > requirements in section 8.2.4 of 4566bis. > > The hard part is seeing to any new actions when *existing* attributes > are used in new ways. For that I think the SDP Directorate is all we > have to check for that sort of thing. I wonder if there ought to be a > checklist of things for SDP Directorate reviews. > There probably should, but it shouldn't be any different than for any other SDP extension (syntactic and/or semantic) and hence we should have that in 4566bis. > And of course *that* also will only work for IETF documents. If > somebody outside the IETF defines a new use for an existing attribute > then we have no mechanism to notice that and trigger an update to the > registry. > True -- Flemming
- [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Juergen Stoetzer-Bradler
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Christian Groves
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] IANA registration of SDP attributes Flemming Andreasen