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Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] Updated charter

"Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> Thu, 24 September 2015 15:45 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] [Ice] Updated charter
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On 24 Sep 2015, at 11:19, Peter Saint-Andre - &yet wrote:

> On 9/24/15 9:12 AM, Ben Campbell wrote:
>> On 23 Sep 2015, at 15:38, Ari Keränen wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding the charter text, I think it looks good, but I'm not sure 
>>> if
>>> we need the first "history" paragraph. Maybe rather mentioned WebRTC
>>> and it's key role only with other protocols in the later paragraph?
>>
>> On a related note: Barry commented that paragraphs 2 and 3 seem
>> unnecessary for the charter. I tend to agree. But if were were to 
>> remove
>> those, I think paragraph 1 would become more important.
>
> IMHO those paragraphs provide useful context (especially for readers 
> who are not deeply familiar with ICE and its history and uses). 
> However, we could probably live without them, too.

(as individual)

I think paragraph 2 goes deeper into explaining what ICE is than is 
needed--perhaps it could be pared down. Paragraph 3 is more about the 
history and relation to other work. That might have more value for a 
charter.

Ben.

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